I'd like to answer Ch'an Buddhism, but I suspect it would be Hinayana. Billy Marshall Stoneking ---- you wrote: > This is an interesting thought -- Pound and Tibetan Buddhism. But, as I > contemplate it, I'm struck by the options that Pound would have had. > Tibetan Buddhism is comprised of so many schools and approaches. The > effects of Buddhism on Pound would have depend on which school he chose to > study. > > Mahayana? Theravada? Tantric? etc. etc. > > Anastasios > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dirk Johnson" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: Julius Evola > > > > Charles: > > > > I enjoy your comments, but I must be a stickler on this one: in China > > today, the most important commandment is "Thou Shall Not Be Tibetan Or > > Believe As Tibetans Believe". > > > > Racism. Extermination. Genocide. A complete eradication of a people and a > > culture. As terrible as any crime in history, such as the successful U.S. > > genocide against the North American Indigenous Peoples or the attempted > > genocide by the Germans of the Jewish people, to name just two extremely > > evil enterprises. Science and progress have been invoked since 1954 as > > excuses to eradicate the Tibetans. To me it makes the Fa-Lun Gong > > controversy seem relatively light. > > > > Also can't help wondering how Pound's attitude toward Buddhism may have > been > > different had he encountered some of the more serious Tibetan Buddhist > works > > instead of Confucian works attacking the popular and superstitious Chinese > > expression of Buddhism. I am NOT saying that all Chinese expressions of > > Buddhism were either popular or superstitious (nor that much of the > Tibetan > > expressions aren't popular or superstitious), but these are certainly the > > forms of Buddhism that are attacked in the Cantos via the Confucians. > > ...incense... Buddh rot ...burnt paper.. gets mad if he doesn't get it... > > > > Man by negation is a more serious (also Confucian) charge, but one based > > upon false and superficial readings of Buddhist philosophy. At least if > Ez > > had become infatuated with Buddhism instead of with Confucianism he would > > have been less likely to become obsessed with economics and less likely to > > go down the path of perdition so well described by Leon Surette in _Pound > in > > Purgatory_. > > > > Tibetan Buddhism is certainly more "mytho-poetic" than Confucianism: art, > > dance, poetry, music, theater, sculpture, philosophy, history, and so > forth > > are not separate disciplines, but mutually expressive. Though the various > > differences between them are obvious, the Tibetan culture is the closest > > survivor in the world to the pre-Classical Greek cultures in the sense of > > not being fragmented while at the same time being exceptionally literate. > > (If there is another equally similar or more similar, I'd love to be > > enlightened.) > > > > I've long though that Pound missed a great opportunity to encounter a > > living, unified cultural tradition when he chose confucianism over > Buddhism. > > The mis-translated _Tibetan Book of the Dead_ would have served him far > > better than Mencius and Muss, especially since the resonance with Canto I > > would have been superb. > > > > Of course, then we wouldn't have the Pisan Cantos, the lack of which I > > wouldn't REALLY wish on anybody. > > > > Dirk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: charles moyer [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:08 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: Julius Evola > > > > > > Wayne, > > Thank you for that information. You write, "I wonder why you link this > > 'high-minded' racist (Evola) with Robert Graves?" > > It seems to me that in the sense of being traditionalists, looking > > beyond and above any charges of "racism", Pound, Evola, and Graves had a > > similar view of the value of ancient wisdom. Call it mytho-poetic, > > Hyperborean, or Celtic- whatever-it translates somewhat the same; that it > > is something in the past worthy of examination and even perhaps of > revival. > > Progress, however, teaches us to formulate new "crimes against humanity" > as > > recently in China where now it has been decreed "Thou shalt not not > believe > > in science". How's that for high-mindedness? > > I would like to see your notes on Evola. I leave it to you as to the > > venue. > > > > CDM > ------------------------------------------------------ Get the Latest News at CNN Interactive: http://CNN.com