In a message dated 07/28/2000 2:55:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << The image is apropos. The molehill exists on the surface. But what is underneath (perhaps--- dare I say it?--- in the unconscious) is more interesting. But like what is underneath, people miss it, or choose to ignore it; or ----AND THIS IS EVEN MORE COMMON,--- they are aware of it, but they choose consciously to ignore it. I have proposed a modest suggestion, a mere hint at what MIGHT lie underneath Pound’s conscious advocacy of fascism. So far, a few list members have rejected it, but without supplying an alternative theory of the Pound’s psychic makeup which could be used to explain this, or any other aspect of Pound’s theory. Those who do reject it may want to lend futher credibility to their positions by fleshing out their opinions. >> only a few members? perhaps I'm wrong -- after all, wei has said everyone is wrong from time to time -- but I haven't noticed ANY support for the MOLEecular level of wei's thesis that Pound was not a mole but a rat! yet in a characteristic expulsion of hot air, wei now takes us on a tour of an imaginary mole hole which he likens to Pound's unconscious while simultaneously making the claim that NO ONE has offered an alternative view. this claim will no doubt come as a surprise to those (foolish, in my opinion) who're been debating wei over Pound's motives for the past months -- although it's true that none of them has been so arrogant as to lay claim to an understanding of Pound's unconscious motives, no doubt because they do not feel competent to do so. as has been remarked on before, wei doesn't bother himself with such restrictions, as they are too restrictive on his unconscious need to expel himself from every orifice. but I want to go on record now as saying unequivocally that neither Freud or Jung ever referred to the unconscious as the subterranean mole hole. jb...