JB wrote: <<Subject: Re: Name five people who died in throes of democracy.... this is a serious question! I don't want a lot of sympathetic glop, I want someone to defend democracy -- and not some utopian notion of it. if one is going to accuse someone of being against democracy, then one should be prepared to point out the democracy that this someone is against.... "but democracy and my democracy?" in a pig's ass... "....spoiled in an american climate...." >> Yes. I must applaud you once again, for putting the point forward so urgently and succinctly. An answer to this question is sorely needed. ---Wei ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com