So Christian ritual is rooted in pagan mythology and Confucianism is rooted in Chinese poetic and metaphysical tradition. What is particularly bad or undemocratic in this? Once again I quote Pound from "Kulchur" , "That one's roots are not a disease but parts of a vital orgainism is worth feeling", but the sentence before this is "That a man find the car of Persephone in a German burrow is already a mental property." It is probably better for one in some cases to drop an a priori argument based or a faulty premise rather than keep flaying such a dead horse until there's nothing left but the bones, and everyone else is already twenty miles down the road on Shank's Mare anyway. CM