Peter Bi, This will make 4 cents between us. I have some 37 years in reading Pound and Kung, and although I stumble now and then over the t-square (will be 70 in 13 years) I'm still inspired by these masters. Here are more quotes from Pound in his own defense. He writes, "...a dark room back of a bank, hung with deep purple curtains. No one must see what happens." ( For explication see "Secrets of the Temple; How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country" by William Greider, esp. Chapter 7 "The God Almighty Dollar". "Am I American?" he wrote to Hubert Greekmore. "...Yes, and bugger the present state of the country, the utter betrayal of the America Constitution..." "...only trying to tell the people of Europe and America how they could avoid war by learning the facts about money." "...I think the American system de jure is probably quite good enough..." "...Does anyone have the faintest idea what I said?" Moody's comment hit the bullseye. "To seek to rectify democracy is to honour its principles, not to despise it." If Pound would have given up on democracy he would have sounded more like Spengler who concluded that "Through money democracy becomes its own destroyer, after money has destroyed intellect." Yet it would be unfair to call Spengler a Nazi, even though the Nazi found him more useful to their purposes than they did Pound. Charles Moyer