I find myself in complete agreement with these remarks made by Joe Brennan <<can anyone say that an imperialist like Churchill was democratic towards India, or other British colonies? the US itself is about 15 or 20 parties short of being democratic. . . . words like "democratic" are highly suspect, especially when used to bash one's opponents -- like Eliot Abrams or Oliver North during the 70's, or Bill Clinton & Tony Blair during the bombing of Serbia.>> These particular phrases hit the nail on the head. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com