>teacher what the rules of the game are? By the way, himself was quite a >rigid teacher, with plenty of "set ideas." Then again, he really >sought out opposing points of view. Hmm.... Well, at best one might say that EP *sometimes* sought out opposing points of view. And I'm not even completely sure that one can go that far. On almost all subjects, EP was quite sure that he knew all the right answers, and to the extent that he could be considered a teacher, he saw it as his function to give his students these right answers. And to tell them what books to read. He did indeed consider it important that students go to the sources themselves and not simply take his word for what was in them, but I think one can say that he always took it for granted that their judgements would agree with his own. People take the term "Ezuversity" much too seriously. But then, in my opinion, people take most things about Pound much too seriously. He did have an urge to be a teacher. But, as I've said, his conception of teaching was to give his ideas to others and have them accept them. He welcomed friendly questions, to the extent that these gave him an opportunity to explain himself more fully. But during the time I knew him at St. Elizabeths, I can't remember him ever being involved in a conversation where there was real give and take. And I think that the reports from those who visited him in Rapallo during the Thirties indicate that he was not really very capable of dealing with that kind of give and take, even from his peers. EP would certainly answer friendly questions, and perhaps answer them at length, but somehow the answers one got often didn't seem very useful. One left feeling still puzzled and frustrated, at least speaking for myself, that one had been given the "correct" answer to one's question, but that somehow one was too stupid to figure out what the answer meant. I think that getting useful information from EP was an art that only a few people, such as Hugh Kenner, ever mastered. Certainly there was a part of him that would have liked to have been a college professor and always regretted not having become one. This is not really a contradiction to his well known disdain for academics. He thought that most academics were incompetent and misguided. and thought, in my opinion, that given the chance, he could have done it the right way. Whether he could have ever learned to successfully function within the academic system is an unanswerable question. One finds many graduate students, maybe especially the brightest ones (and perhaps I'm thinking especially of myself when I was younger!), whose understanding of the teaching process is no better than EP's was, and over the course of time they learn more about how to make it work. (Some learn more than others, of course!) One of the paradoxes I seem to observe on this list is that some of the academics who are most anti-Pound, in the sense of vigorously condemning everything about him except his ability to write some good lines of poetry, are actually very similar to him, but in a mirror-image way. Their obsessions are the exact opposite of EP's, but their attachment to these obsessions, and the way in which their perceptions are constantly distorted by these obsessions, is very much like him. As I said above, in my opinion they take EP much too seriously, in the same way that he took so very many things much too seriously. --Lee Lady Http://www2.Hawaii.Edu/~lady