Pounders: taking a class on WCW's poetry wherein we also Mariani's biography of the Patersonite, many of my classmates have focused on the poetic antagonism Williams held and voiced towards Pound and Eliot through his poems. Mariani makes much of this; in my mind, it's too much. I personally see any frustration Williams had with the wannabe europeanness of Pound and Eliot, including the potentially arcane allusions etc, as minor and inessential to his--Williams's--poetic oeuvre. what makes it worse is how obviously ignorant of Eliot's and especially Pound's poetry my classmates are. I seem to have lost my point. this was more, originally, than a venting. ahh, yes: is there anything specific (as in, more than just a general sense I get from reading Pound's poetry--Cantos or otherwise) I can mention to argue that Pound's (and Eliot's) writings are more than overeducated and self-impressed mental gymnastics but instead are constituted of vibrant and emotional language that, as part of but not solely existent to the technique, re-INVIGORATES the classics and gives new life to literary tradition? I can think now, for instance, of Only emotion endures and Literature is news that STAYS news. anything beyonf these soundbites? thank you. Lucas