If anyone's interested, my website - www.debooj.freeserve.co.uk/index.html - contains a lot of poetry (and prose) by a twenty-year-old would be poet who's read a lot of Pound, as well as Eliot and other Modernists. I must update it, particularly as a lot of it's now come out in print so I have the copywrite again... ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bray To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 9:46 PM Subject: Cantos' influence on living poetry? At 02:23 PM 1/17/00 -0500, Burt Hatlen wrote: >Has anyone other than Pound written a good poem in a manner shaped by >the Hmm, anyone who attempts a book-length poem can hardly be unaware of the Cantos looming over their shoulder. In the last decade I've read two book-length poems that I consider to be very good: Vikram Seth's "Golden Gate" and Derek Walcott's "Omeros". Both are influenced only very little in *form* by the Cantos; they are mostly monoglot and mostly adhere to formal structures in their verse. I think the influence shows heavily in the occasionally-enjoyably-out-of-control discursions in both poems; Seth invests pages in the mechanics of plucking olives and distilling oil, and in antinuke rallies; Walcott takes us far afield from the poem's home in the Caribbean to episodes in New England, Mid-America, and other more exotic locales. In neither case is the material really integral to the, er, dramatic unities of the underlying work; in both cases (Seth more than Walcott) it's hard to imagine the work really working with the discursions excised. Of course in the Cantos, if you excised the discursions, what would you have left? Snicker. -T.