tip of the iceberg of what I learned from this guy--and the son of a gun died the next week. thanks. Robert E Kibler, PhD English and Humanities Valley City State University [log in to unmask] 701-845-7108 ----------------------------------------------- "Pay no attention to names. Investigate into the reasons things are as they are." Chu Hsi, The Great Synthesis, 3:27b >>> Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]> 01/18 12:47 PM >>> Great story, Robert, about the Victrola. Tim Romano