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"Robert E. Kibler" <[log in to unmask]>
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Robert E Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:11:44 -0500
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On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:55:01 -0500 wrote...
I just wish that I was one of these scholars who was fucking around more.
i second this.
>the problem that many people of this (my, i'm about to turn 23) vastly
>misunderstood (and greatly marginalized) generation have with pound is not
>availability, but help.  there is no easy resource for pound as there is for
>eliot or joyce. so much is either overly (psudo)intellectual, or incredibly
>reactionary. and there is so much of it. pound is not hard to understand so
>much as the stigma surrounding pound is hard to get thru.
>so much of what i have read concerning pound has been the same things stated
>over and over again in what seems to be a vast hope to prove that the author
>is -also- an intellectual because -they- can write about pound. but no new
>ground is broken. it's disgusting. the fact that poetry going into the 21st
>c. is incresingly stagnant proves that there is more need for pound now than
>ever. but us youngins are not given the help we need because there are too
>many pound scholars fucking around instead of thinking.
>but i guess it's up to us to find new ways of dealing with pound, everyone
>else is too busy trying to impress one another.
>i'll not rant.
>>As a lurking member of the so-called "twenty-nothing and thirty-nothing
>>generation," I resent the condescension in this thread.  Not all Poundians
>>are over forty, and it seems to me that younger Poundians should be
>>encouraged, not mocked.  We are all on the same side here aren't we?  I
>>thought the point of the list was to engage in a discussion  about a poet
>>whose work interests all of us.
>>        I hardly think that the reason younger scholars and stdents of
>>literature have "hardly even heard of [Pound]" is because the Cantos aren't
>>available on the Web.  While electronic access might be convenient, it isn't
>>preventing students and aspiring scholars from reading EP.  Perhaps a more
>>likely reason is his conspicuous absence from the classroom--whether because
>>his poetry is "too difficult" or because many instructors find his politics
>>distasteful or inappropriate for the classroom.  As an undergraduate, I was
>>always curious about Pound, but never got the chance to read him.  It wasn't
>>until my second semester of graduate school that I found his work on a
>>syllabus, and even still, I find that the pre-dominant attitude among
>>professors and students is one of grudging appreciation--yes, he was an
>>important figure, but his poetry is difficult to understand and often  best
>>left to interested individuals with lots of free time and additional
>>references.  Availability of texts, in my opinion, isn't the problem--it's
>>Pound's troubled position within the institution.
>>Erin Templeton
>>Dept. of English
>>Penn State University
>>University Park, PA  16802
>        There are no hierarchies, no infinite, no such many as mass,
>        there are only
>        eyes in all heads
>        to be looked out of
>                             -charles olson, from "letter 6" (of the maximus
>                                 poems)
Robert E. Kibler
Department of English
University of Minnesota
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