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Anthony, yes, had I considered more carefully what I was writing, I would have written "so called Business English"
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From: Anthony Metivier <[log in to unmask]>
Date:         Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:43:56 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Fw:


> To follow the least of strands,
>
> what constitutes 'business English?'  Surely there is no better gimmick than
> the finely wrought metaphor, and as far as I know, the typical business
> pitch is loaded with metaphors, as is advertising.  How does one learn the
> powers and limits of language without studying poetry?
>
> I've been looking at Canto XLV for a presentation I'm giving in a few
> months.  One could almost replace each instance of 'with usura' with
> 'without poetry,' and have an equally stunning, albeit gloomy effect.
>
> 'It rusteth the craft and the craftsman
> It gnaweth the thread in the loom
> None learneth to weave gold in her pattern'
>
>         Canto XLV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Grace Davis
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fw:
>
>
> Hail to ya, Stepen.  All of my students are only interested in
> money/business/computers as well.  Keep up the good work of trying to open
> their minds.
>      -Grace Davis
>
> Stephen Tyler wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Stephen Tyler" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:55:57 +0200
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:
> > Hope you don't mind me reusing this message to the HD group as means of
> introduction.
> > Hello all! I'm new to this list, and not being a seasoned user of IT, I
> hope I've done what's necessary to join the group.(I think I have, but I've
> received some contradictory status messages, and haven't yet received any
> messages from the group: hence my doubt.)
> > I live in Warsaw, Poland, where I teach English. Born in Sydney,
> Australia, I've lived for 20 years in London, mainly, but with several
> stints teaching here in Warsaw.
> > My love of HD was born of my studies of EP during my 20s.(I'm mid 40s, if
> you were wondering, and, yes, I know I should have taken a course in IT by
> now.) Though I greatly admire Pound, it is mainly as a teacher and
> influence, not so much as a poet: I concluded, after many years studying
> modernist poetry, that HD was more truly a poet than Pound, even than Eliot.
> This is something I hope to discuss with the group.
> > I have scant opportunity here to teach HD: most of my students have
> deadened their sensibilities with business studies, and my attempts to
> revive them have only jeopardised my job prospects. Business English is
> what's in demand here: I've never lived in a country where Humanities/Arts
> is considered so unimportant, and where so many sensitive looking young
> people bury themselves in such studies as Marketing, Management etc. But I
> hope I've been able to offer an alternative vision to at least a few of
> them, and have found HD's poetry the best means for this.
> > Next week I'm going to Venice and Florence for a week. (I hope to pour a
> libation at EP's grave in Venice.)
> > Well, that's me introduced! I promise to keep more closely to the list
> topic in future.
> > Hope to hear from the group soon.
> >
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