Bob,
Are you saying that the debate is staged so as to suppress discussion of any meritorious aspects of fascist ideologies and agendas? That the way the questions themselves are framed amounts to a tacit suppression of pro-Fascist opinion because Fascism(s) is/are perceived to be inseparable from tryannical oppression of dissent and race hatred? That some subjects have been banned from the stage, and that others are allowed on stage only if they appear in villain's garb? 
Tim Romano 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
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> bill friend writes:
> >But that polemic *doesn't* invariably ground them. In fact, the majority of
> >the writers who have been cited here -- Gregor, Ledeen, Tim Redman,
> >Sternhell (about whom I'd like to second Leon Surette's recommendation) --
> >all present subtle and important discussions of a complicated phenomenon.
> >
> 
> 
> bill,
>    isn't the burden of the sternhell which surette excerpts
> -"marginalization of fascism," "apologetic interpretation
> of events"...,
> eloquently to argue precisely the pt of the existence
> of a polemical tyranny over this piece of cultural turf?
> 
> bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Freind <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 7:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Integer vitae scelerisque purum
> 
> 
> >> !
> >>
> >> bill,
> >>     not exactly...the terms are meaningfull enuf
> >> (didn't i just try to thumbnail "fascism")
> >> but the polemic that invariably grounds them
> >> - thats to say, the winner's narrative
> >> (capitalist good guys, fascist bad guys),
> >> that displaces thereby "the horror" of modern history
> >> onto the popular classes,
> >> is jes the usual speciousness of the cultural hegemon,
> >> bourgeois liberalism.
> >
> >But that polemic *doesn't* invariably ground them. In fact, the majority of
> >the writers who have been cited here -- Gregor, Ledeen, Tim Redman,
> >Sternhell (about whom I'd like to second Leon Surette's recommendation) --
> >all present subtle and important discussions of a complicated phenomenon.
> >
> >> so that i'd say sumpin like,
> >> feel free to absolve yersef of any compunctions
> >> in re ep's purported ideological/racial guilt
> >> ...therz no need to feel ashamed if you find
> >> yersef agree'n with a particular use of the word kike or nigger,
> >
> >Oh, lordy, Bob -- this is ridiculous and it goes well beyond word choice.
> >Pound's anti-Semitism would be comical if it weren't so nasty: he's wrong
> on
> >every count. If you find yourself agreeing with his use of the word "kike,"
> >you've got bigger problems than liking a word which has fallen out of
> favor.
> >
> >Bill Freind
> 
>