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bill friend writes:
>But that polemic *doesn't* invariably ground them. In fact, the majority of
>the writers who have been cited here -- Gregor, Ledeen, Tim Redman,
>Sternhell (about whom I'd like to second Leon Surette's recommendation) --
>all present subtle and important discussions of a complicated phenomenon.
>
 
 
bill,
   isn't the burden of the sternhell which surette excerpts
-"marginalization of fascism," "apologetic interpretation
of events"...,
eloquently to argue precisely the pt of the existence
of a polemical tyranny over this piece of cultural turf?
 
bob
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Freind <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Integer vitae scelerisque purum
 
 
>> !
>>
>> bill,
>>     not exactly...the terms are meaningfull enuf
>> (didn't i just try to thumbnail "fascism")
>> but the polemic that invariably grounds them
>> - thats to say, the winner's narrative
>> (capitalist good guys, fascist bad guys),
>> that displaces thereby "the horror" of modern history
>> onto the popular classes,
>> is jes the usual speciousness of the cultural hegemon,
>> bourgeois liberalism.
>
>But that polemic *doesn't* invariably ground them. In fact, the majority of
>the writers who have been cited here -- Gregor, Ledeen, Tim Redman,
>Sternhell (about whom I'd like to second Leon Surette's recommendation) --
>all present subtle and important discussions of a complicated phenomenon.
>
>> so that i'd say sumpin like,
>> feel free to absolve yersef of any compunctions
>> in re ep's purported ideological/racial guilt
>> ...therz no need to feel ashamed if you find
>> yersef agree'n with a particular use of the word kike or nigger,
>
>Oh, lordy, Bob -- this is ridiculous and it goes well beyond word choice.
>Pound's anti-Semitism would be comical if it weren't so nasty: he's wrong
on
>every count. If you find yourself agreeing with his use of the word "kike,"
>you've got bigger problems than liking a word which has fallen out of
favor.
>
>Bill Freind

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