Anyone know whats up with Adam Tate this season..???
Is he injured?? Havent heard anything about him this season....
 
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> From:         Deron Treadwell[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Thursday, December 10, 1998 12:37 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: Shawn Mansoff
>
> The question of whether Shawn Mansoff should return to the University
> of Maine hockey team is an interesting one.  While I agree with Cathy
> that the decision for Mansoff to return or not is ultimiately up to the
> team, I think that certainly the fans who support the team and the
> university should be able to air their opinions -- and I suppose this
> list is just as good of a place as any.
>
> First off, why does Maine even need Shawn Mansoff?  I'd argue he'd be
> sitting on the bench at Maine if he returned.  He played mostly
> defense, Maine now has 8 solid defensemen.  At forward, Mansoff
> wouldn't break into the top three lines and you mean to tell me he is
> more valuable than Jason Vitorino, Jim Leger or Bobby Stewart?  No way.
>  To a certain degree I can understand Mansoff thinking he "can" come
> back, but I don't know why Shawn Walsh would want him.  Maine's team
> and its depth are far different from the Shawn Mansoff days.
>
> I'm not convinced that Shawn Mansoff is innocent of the charges against
> him, either.  Remember that innocence and guilt has many faces for a
> college student.  Shawn Mansoff could have been found innocent in a
> criminal court of law, and therefore does not face any jail time or
> fines under Maine's hate crime laws.
>
> But let's not forget that Mansoff was suspsended for one year by the
> University of Maine.  What does that tell us?  It tells us that the
> conduct code officer of the university found him either guilty or
> responsible for certain violations of the student conduct code.  Now,
> in legal sense the level of proof is different.  Essentially a student
> judiciary process is equivilent to a civil trial with the evidence
> needing to show it was "more likely than not" that the person is guilty
> as opposed to a criminal trial where the level of evidence is "beyond a
> reasonable doubt."
>
> UMaine does not suspend students (especially high profile students such
> as a hockey player) for one year unless it was found that it was "more
> likely than not" that he was guilty of violating the student conduct
> code and/or he was deemed a danger to the university community.  It is
> a serious thing to be suspended for a year, let's not sugar coat that
> folks.  What happened is a big deal.
>
> I do not know this for a fact, but I do have an understanding of law
> and how things work.  But I want to state for the record that the above
> is my suggestion given the fact that Mansoff was suspended for a year.
> That said, the student judiciary process is set up SPECIFICALLY so that
> students can be EDUCATED without facing criminal prosecution.
>
> So that said, if Shawn Mansoff wants to return to the University of
> Maine and is admitted he should be allowed to return.
>
> The question of whether he should be allowed to play hockey again is a
> different question in and of itself.  While Mansoff may have a "right"
> to return to school for his education, he does not have a right to a
> scholarship or ice time on the hockey team.  Mansoff was suspended
> indefinitely from the hockey team, and I have not seen that suspension
> lifted, nor should it ever be.
>
> This was a deplorable situation and I had fortune enough to meet the
> judge who presided over the Bryan Masotta part of this case, who echoes
> those sentiments.  This situation brought unneeded attention to the
> University of Maine and did a great disservice to a program (as Cathy
> aptly noted) struggling with the pride of its past and forging a new
> pride.  Maine has had enough bad press to last at least a couple
> decades.  A decision by Walsh or the team to allow him back will only
> further detract from this team's on-ice performance and will again
> bring ethics into question.
>
> Mansoff may not have been found criminally guilty, but there was enough
> evidence to toss him out of school for a year.  As far as I'm concerned
> that's also enough evidence to never allow him to play hockey for this
> school again.
>
> ---
> Deron Treadwell - [log in to unmask]
>
> "Any idiot can face a crisis -- it's this day-to-day living that wears
> you out."
>                                         - Anton Chekhov
>