John from U o Michigan said, in reply to my comment:
> On the Michigan-NMU penalties:
>
> I hasten to say this, because it may be largely a result of bias. With
> that forward, I feel that NMU deserved the extra penalties they received
> last weekend. It would have been nice to see who could win 60 minutes of
> 5-on-5 hockey, but my ONE GAME impression of NMU is that they could never
> go more than 10 minutes without a penalty. NMU and Michigan seemed to have
> similar styles. I don't define either of them as a cheap/dirty team, but
> they both do A LOT of holding, clutching, grabbing, etc. They both play
> a physical game as well. While Michigan doesn't discriminate (they hold
> everyone on the other team), NMU seemed to be going overboard on Felsner.
> Denny received several penalties for retaliating, but IMHO, NMU got of
> light considering they hit him with everything but the kitchen sink (and
> I'm not too sure about that even!).
John, as some know I'm one of the most vocal on the list about being
opposed to rough play and fighting (Wayne, did you ever publish my
musings about this vis-a-vis Team USA and the France game?), so I'm
no defender of this kind of thing. You have the advantage of having
seen the Western final between UM & NMU while I only had the radio
broadcast, so I can't comment on what it looked like. All I can say
is that over the course of the season the Wildcats were NOT penalized
that much. Also, while they may have been concentrating on Felsen
(again, I wasn't there), they have at least one player who in every
game I watched faced that sort of thing--Scott Beattie. Scott was
literally (well, figuratively, anyway) undressed by his "shadows"
in most games. I have no doubt at all that it accounts for the
dive his goal-scoring took in the second half of the season (found
the touch in Detroit, but it takes team defense too, doesn't it?)
and also the greater number of retaliatory/frustration penalties
he ended up taking this year. In all honesty, the only player I have
seen *regularly* go out of his way to put a hard check on someone
(i.e. when the target doesn't have the puck) is Mark Hadden--who is
probably the smallest guy on the team. (Before the game started the
NMU announcers were commenting on how much taller and heavier the
Wolverines are than most of their Wildcat counterparts.)
Maybe things are called closer in the CCHA than they are in the WCHA.
> This is exactly the opposite impression I have after seeing Minnesota
> play three games. The Gophers are actually too gentile for hockey. I'd
> thoroughly enjoy watching them for an entire season because I honestly
> really like the team. As someone pointed out earlier though, their style
> is not conducive to the physical game often needed in the post-season.
> LSSU did not outhit them into defeat, but I think that they could have if
> they weren't as successful in skating right through the Minnesota defense.
>
> On Albany:
>
> Finally, to Garrett and everyone else on their way to the phinal phour,
> Yes - I will be there. I don't know what my seats are, but I'll try to
> look up as many of the others as I can. I'll also do my best to swing by
> the Hockey-L gathering on Thursday. C-YA.
>
> John
> UMich
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 10:33:15 PST
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Hodge Podge
>
> John Haeussler said "The Gophers are actually too gentile for hockey."
>
> should they recruit more Jewish players? Them Synagogue Youth leagues produce
> lots of stars. ;-)
>
> ross
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 12:52:52 EST
> From: Bill Fenwick <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: HOCKEY-L poll ends for the season
>
> Now that the NCAA playoffs are more or less in full swing, interest in the
> HOCKEY-L poll appears to have tailed off. There were only two responses this
> week, following the three from last week, so I think it's time to end the poll
> for this season. I'd like to extend my thanks to all who participated and
> helped to make the poll a success, and hopefully the HOCKEY-L poll will go
> as well next season.
>
> Good luck to all the teams going to Albany (so far, the snow doesn't appear
> to be too bad...) I guess I'll root for Lake Superior, since the Lakers
> seem to be woefully under-represented on this list.
>
> One NCAA-playoff note: Maine's loss to Michigan State last weekend makes this
> the third year in a row that the more-or-less consensus #1 team has missed the
> Final Four, following on the heels of Lake Superior last year and the Spartans
> the year before.
> --
> Bill Fenwick
> Cornell '86 and probably '94
> LET'S GO RED!!
> "The Pentagon announced that the war in the gulf was so expensive that if we
> ever do go to war again, it won't be on CNN -- it will be on Pay-per-view."
> -- Jay Leno
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 11:11:59 EST
> From: Mike Zak <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: My statistics
>
> In Ryan's posting about an underdog's statistical chance of winning a 2
> of 3 series, he also mentions how physcological effects can change the
> outcome. How each game becomes an independent trial. A good example
> of this was Clarkson's two wins over Lake Superior last year. I think
> that that was even more of an upset than MSU beating UMO. Lake Superior
> had some 28-32 game winning streak and hadn't lost to any inferior teams.
> (UMO did lose to Northeastern this year.) Back on the subject, Clarkson
> went into Sault Ste. Marie and won the first game by a good margin
> (including 2 empty net goals). Now Clarkson only has to win one of the
> next two games. All of the pressure is on LSSU to win the next two.
> Clarkson knows that they are capable of winning and can afford a loss.
> When one looks at the winning percentages of the teams in the NC$$
> tourney, they're pretty high, mostly above 80%, so there is a better
> chance of having the lower seed win two games than a true underdog.
> But it can happen: Ryan's own RPI is a good example of a team with a
> low winning percentage going out and beating two (almost three) better
> teams.
>
> As was proposed before, I would support the NC$$ going to an 8 team
> tournament with the first round being best of 3 at campus sites. 16
> teams would be too many, more than a third.
>
> I hold myself personally responsible for all of the western teams being
> in the semis. I picked everything wrong, except Northern Michigan over
> Clarkson (I was really pulling for us though), Lake Superior over Alaska
> and Michigan to beat NMU, but I jinxed Maine, St. Lawrence (that one on
> purpose :-) ) and Minnesota. Sorry folks.
>
> Mike Zak
> Clarkson '87, '90
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 20:21:56 EST
> From: Terry Rosenbaum <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: MSU Roster updated
>
> Here's an updated roster for MSU. Sorry the positions are missing. My
> memory isn't so good for those things, so I didn't chance it. List I
> worked from didn't note positions. If anyone else can fill in, please
> do.
>
> ROSTER FOR MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS (4/1/92)
>
> NO NAME POS YR DRAFT HOMETOWN
>
> 01 Eric Kruse G FR Ann Arbor, MI
> 02 Nicolas Perreault D SO CGY Loretteville, Que.
> 03 Michael Stewart D JR NYR Indus, Alta.
> 04 Steve Norton D SO BOS Missisauga, Ont.
> 06 James Lambros D SO Sault St. Marie, MI
> 07 Scott Lock ?? FR Livonia, MI
> 08 Rem Murray FR Dublin, Ont.
> 09 Michael Burkett LW SO MIN Toronto, Ont.
> 10 Scott Worden LW SO Port Huron, MI
> 11 Steve Guolla FR Agincourt, Ont.
> 12 Scott Dean FR Lake Forest, IL
> 14 Dwayne Norris RW SR QUE St. John's, Newf.
> 15 Bryan Smolinski C JR BOS Genoa, OH
> 16 Steve Suk FR Riverwoods, IL
> 17 Peter White LW SR EDM Pierrefonds, Que.
> 18 Michael Thompson W JR PIT Scarborough, Ont.
> 19 Bart Turner LW SO DET Beaverton, OR
> 20 Rob Woodward LW JR VAN Deerfield, IL
> 21 Wes McCauley D JR DET Georgetown, Ont.
> 22 Joby Messier D SR NYR Regina, Sask.
> 23 Kelly Harper C SO CGY Scarborough, Ont.
> 24 Doug Collins D SR ?
> 25 Matt Albers FR Ann Arbor, MI
> 26 Charles Elliot JR Sault St. Marie, MI
> 27 Ryan Folkening FR Williamston, MI
> 28 Doug Garbarz D SR Dearborn, MI
> 30 Mike Gilmore G SR NYR Farmington Hills, MI
> 33 Bill Shalawylo C/LW JR Warren, MI
>
> Notes on MSU (4/1/92):
>
> Injuries:
>
> Burkett (ankle) season.
> Stewart (foot) season.
> Albers (kneecap) season.
>
> Garbarz playing with chronic knee and a shoulder injury.
>
> TV: PASS
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 04:02:33 EST
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: MSU Roster updated
>
> As Keith suggested, Kruse is a red-shirt freshman goalie.
> To add a little to Terry's list:
> 32 Buzak is a freshman goalie.
>
> #3 Stewart has not played since early in the season due to injury and
> can probably qualify for a red-shirt season.
>
> # 6, 7, 24, 27 have played little or none all year.
>
> Burkett is out with a broken ankle suffered in the Providence practice
> session just before the BU game. Skate caught in a crack in the ice
> according to the story I heard.
>
> Albers is also a recent injury.
>
> #26 Elliott is a defenseman, the others without positions on Terry's
> list are forwards.
>
> #19 Turner is listed as a wing, but he may show up on defense.
>
> The injuries to both defense and offense have created some quite different
>
> combinations that last few games. I have no idea what you might see.
> Barring injury, Norris and White will skate together; after that ???
> If the defense looks reasonably healthy, Turner could skate with them,
> but at Providence it was Suk, who would w
> otherwise center the 3rd line. Murray and Smolinksi will probably
> skate together.
>
> For a little entertainment you might watch for Woodward - when he can
> manage it he will be skating on one leg, carrying a defenseman on one
> arm and trying to manage the puck with a stick in his other hand.
> Spread out like this he takes up about half the rink.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 16:15:05 EST
> From: Mike Proulx <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: NCAA Tournament Seedings/NMU-UM
>
> >
> > here in the East. I don't think I have heard much at all on officials which
> > were biased to one team or another, and since both teams have to play with t
> > same officials, all is fair right???
> > Penalties are part of the game, sometimes 5 will be called sometimes
> > 19 (numbers are clearly irrelevant), but both teams have to deal with it.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> I was in Providence Saturday. I thought the ref was terrible. I did not
> drive 2 hours to watch a ref. I went down to see 2 EXCITING hockey games.
> I think the ref played a part in the Maine-MS game. By calling all those
> penalties the ref slowed down the game to a stop, thus making it a very
> boring game to watch. He did not let the boys play hockey. To top it off
> he called alot of meaningless penalaties that did not have anything to do
> with the play. I will give the ref some credit because he did call the game
> evenly. He just called EVERYTHING. It didn't give either team a chance to
> get started.
>
> I am not blaming Maine's loss because of the ref. I just think he did not
> do his job. I thought I was watching a basketball game. 19 penalties is
> ridiculus.
>
> Congratulation MSU and good luck!
>
> -Mike
> U Lowell Chiefs (That's what it was when I was there.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 14:34:51 EST
> From: "Bob Gilreath" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: NHL
>
> Players association news conference starting right now.
> early talk is overwhelmimg vote for rejection of owners last proposal
> From Bob Goodnow (sp) executive director of players association:
> message of owners clear accept our final offer or walk.
> the vote results prove the players stand on the final offer
> vote was 560-4 to reject final offer.
> players reps on site in toronto to continue talks, but strike is on as
> of 3 pm.
> Teams that are on the road will be returning to their home cities
> Goodnow will meet with Ziegler yet this afternoon to continue talks
> No games tonight
> (paraphrased as i am typing while listening to tv)
>
> NHL is now on strike College Hockey Finals should have center stage this
> weekend in the hockey world.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 15:47:26 -0500
> From: "Ryan G. Stone" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: NHL
>
> If the NHL was as exciting as College Hockey, I would tell the owners to give
> the players what they want, but...
>
> I am happy to be watching the real excitement TOMORROW,
> Let them argue...
> See you All in Albany (go michigan...who else to root
> for??????)
>
> -Ryan Stone
> Lawrence University (Appleton, WI) '93
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute '93
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 13:21:08 CDT
> From: "I lust after Ed Asner (Hoeman,William L)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: One of the few LSSU fans....
>
> Even though central Iowa is pretty isloated, that won't stop me from
> asserting that LSSU will emerge the winner of the NCAA tournament. The FF
> pits two defense-oriented teams (LSSU and Wisconsin) vs. two offensive powers
> (Both UM and MSU tallied over 150 goals so far, methinks). All boast
> superior netminding.
>
> Michigan should prevail over Wisconsin. Wisconsin has, from time to time,
> suffered some mental breakdowns when put against the wall. If Michigan comes
> out scoring fast, they win. Derksen doesn't seem to be the kind of goalie who
> enjoys having all the pressure put on him. Michigan is also in offensive-
> overdrive recently. The goals have been coming easily for them, and I
> think they are looking for another crack at LSSU, too (or so my friend at
> LSSU tells me).
>
> Even though MSU was fairly successful against LSSU this year (2-1-1, I
> think), they will find it hard to weed through an ever-improving LSSU
> defense, who manhandled Minnesota (not exactly offensive midgets). The
> penalty-killing for LSSU has remained strong, and the power play has gotten
> better. If both teams come out checking, LSSU will have the advantage.
> Madeley is always tough--he is making Robb Stauber's Hobey campaign look
> positively average.
>
> Coincidentally, for those 'Sotans who remember Robb, I saw him play for the
> Phoenix Roadrunners (IHL) over break. He knocked the holy bejeezus out of
> the other team's fighter. It must be real embarrasing when you get the
> snot kicked out of your by the cumbersome goalie.
>
> Adios,
> Bill H.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 15:20:17 EST
> From: Mike Varney <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Prime on Satellite
>
> Prime Network (and NESN) both scramble.
>
> Mike Varney
> Programming Mgr,
> WCKN-31
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 19:02:52 EST
> From: R David Smith <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Prime Network
>
> What is Prime Network? Is it its own channel (Like ESPN or SportsChannel) or
> is it one of those things like Pass or Raycom that doesn't exist as its own
> entity but is picked up by various stations who wish to pay for the coverage?
> have never heard of Prime, and while I get SportsChannel Ohio which has
> occaisionally carried a CCHA game or two, I have low hopes for being able to
> see the semis. I wish ESPN wouldn't sell the rights to those. :-(
>
> --
> Dave [log in to unmask]
> Cornell '91 OSU Med '95
> Let's Go Red!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 19:07:22 CDT
> From: "I lust after Ed Asner (Hoeman,William L)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Prime Network
>
> Prime Network is Los Angeles' sports cable outlet. They generally televise
> collegiate hockey (sometimes) LA Kings, and LA Lakers games, plus other
> sports no one would really care about. I know that a lot of their things are
> telecast on other networks (PASS affiliates get some of them). I think the
> network is partly owned by Bruce McNall, the owner of the former Edmonton
> Oilers.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 16:16:58 PST
> From: John Hughes <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Prime Network
>
> > What is Prime Network? Is it its own channel (Like ESPN or SportsChannel) .
>
> In the San Jose area the cable company supplied something called Pacific
> Sports Network (PSN). Most (all?) of the programming carried a Prime
> indentification. They also carried CCHA games via PASS. The cable co.
> also supplied Sports Channel America (SCA) for a fee.
>
> Under a new deal where the SF Giants, Oakland As, SJ Sharks and GS Warriors
> games are carried on SC, the cable company now carries somthing called
> Sports Channel Bay Area (SCBA). This is free for everything except those
> Bay Area professional teams (home and away!) game broadcasts. In the
> process the cable co. dropped PSN. So we no longer get CCHA (PASS) games
> on cable out here.
>
> -John Hughes
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 20:03:29 -0500
> From: Big Bri <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Prime Network
>
> Uh, Prime Network is a network in its own right. I know it does LA Kings
> ers' strike) and does some other things. I wish ESPN wouldn'
> t sell the rights to the semis but after all, America's Cup yacthing
> is much more intriguing...NOT!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> BRI FARENELL CLARKSON '95 [log in to unmask]
>
> "It's a great day for hockey." ---Bob Johnson 1931-1991
>
> PROUD TO BE A FAN OF USA HOCKEY AND US COLLEGE HOCKEY.
>
> "Take me out to the ballgame..." ---Baseball song
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 21:57:58 -0500
> From: Craig Cheslog <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Rumor about TV coverage...
>
> My boss, predictions guru Mike Townsend, told me this afternoon that he
> heard a rumor that SportsChannel America would pick up the Wisconsin-
> Michigan game if the NHL players went on strike. Has anyone heard anything
> about this?
>
> It's probably too much to hope for. 8-(
>
> Craig Cheslog
> Bowdoin '93
>
> I lived in the Upper Penninsula from birth to age 15, so I must root for
> Lake Superior State. (Although if they win, save me from Mike Townsend,
> he will be unbearable! 8-) )
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 15:19:59 EST
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: UMaine hockey news(BIG DEVELOPMENTS!!!)
>
> The following stories were reported in today's Maine Campus-the UM student
> newspaper.
>
> 1) Rob Howland earns starting role betwwen the pipes for nxt season's ho
> e opener October 23. His progress this season is why,according to Coach Walsh
>
> 2) Senior Steve Tepper,originally at UMaine to play football,admitted Ti
> sday that he "still thought (he) was playing football" during the last four se
> sons. Poor Tep,all those hockey memories;gone.
>
> 3) A UMaine statistician was arrested for the unauthorized selling of
> "The Scott Pellerin Story" on Tuesday. On his way to jail,the statsman was
> heard repeating"Pelly for Hobey" over and over.
>
> 4) In a most interesting development,it was discovered this week that
> UMaine forward Cal Ingraham is,in fact,Coach Walsh's 1-1/2 year old son,known
> previously as "Tyler". Walsh said that he didn't want (MSU Coach/Father-in-La
> ) Ron Mason to know,because Mason would have preferred "Tyler" to wear the
> Green and White. Players were shocked at the news but said that it "explains
> lot".
>
> In other UMaine sports news:
>
> It was announced that Basketball Coach Rudy Keeling was heading to UNLV
> to replace Tarkanian. IU Coach Bobby Knight will replace Keeling after the
> NC$$ Final Four this weekend. Coming with Knight from IU will be Damon Bailey
> who was traded for two UM players.
> In a tragic turn of events,Mahaney Diamond,home of the baseball Black Be
> rs,was washed away following torrential downpours. Coach John Winkin says tha
> the field will be ready for play this weekend,somehow.
>
> What a day at UMaine. All these stories breaking,all on the same day.
> Say,what is today,anyway. Let's see.....Wednesday,April 1,1992. Hmmmmmmm.....
> April first,Why does that mean something???? Oh,that's right! Today is:
>
>
> A P R I L F O O L ' S D A Y ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> (Be honest,I had you going ther
> Didn't I ????)
>
>
> John Forsyth
>
> "Be vewy vewy qwiet,I'm hunting Hoosiers!" -Elmer J. (Bobby Hurley) Fudd
> "Oh,I know I'm a louse,but I'm a LIVE LOUSE!! I'm not like other people. I
> can't stand pain:it hurts me." -Daffy Duck
>
>
>
>
>
> Please take this as the humor it was intended to be,after all it is April 1
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 22:20:00 EST
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Weather and driving to Albany
>
> Readers:
> I am going to support Lawrence and his opinions on the Thruway. I am
> a student at State University of New York at Plattsburgh, and my permanent
> residence is in Webster, NY. (Just outside of Rochester.) Needless to say,
> I have done my share of driving on the thruway in bad weather.
>
> I would suggest taking rte. 20 which parallels the thruway into
> Albany. The pace is a little slower, and the road is well kept. The drawback
> is that there are all sorts of little towns along the way.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Eric Kreckel
> ([log in to unmask])
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 09:41:32 EST
> From: "Janet B. Hodgson" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Weather and driving to Albany
>
> Associate Archivist, University Archives, Ekstrom Library
> PHONE: 588-6674
> Unless things have changed in the past few months, the Thruway is usually
> monitored and kept in decent condition despite the weather. However, Rt. 20
> is a delightful drive, also kept in good condition, and the small towns
> provide gas, food, and lodging come a bad storm, definitely a plus over
> the Thruway plazas in our book. Have a safe journey, everyone. We wish
> we were with you.
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 13:52:38 -0500
> From: "Larry Haag, Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Weather and Driving to Albany
>
> I know Rt. 17 can be bad, but the Thruway is not immune to snow problems,
> either. Depending on which way the wind is blowing, Erie to Buffalo, Buffalo
> to around Batavia, and in/around Syracuse can get a lot of "Lake Effect" snow.
> I can't say too much about things to the east of Syracuse, but you are getting
> far enough away from Lake Ontario and Lake Erie to probably avoid any heavy
> snow.
>
> In good weather, I can get from my house to Albany in about 4 hours. I will
> definitely watch the weather tonight to determine how early I need to leave in
> the morning in order to be there for the opening faceoff. See you there!!
>
> Larry
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 08:17:36 EST
> From: Paul Marchant <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Winningest Goalies
>
> John inquired about the top 5-10 winningest goalies. I believe that Gary
> Kruzich of BG is the winningest. He bested Ken Dryden's record during his
> senior year. The 'Kruz' led BG to the NC$$ Championship in his freshman year.
> Keith can confirm this and give actual numbers as I don't have any programs
> here at work.
>
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>
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