EXACTLY... there is more to this story... 
even if he were a moron and completely drunk.. what
the BDN reported just does not happen


--- Matt Dewkett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Either this is a fabrication, or Tanner House is a
> moron.  I know there has to be more to this, but the
> BDN portrays this as two people having a
> conversation-
> another person approaches them, gropes the girl, and
> walks away like nothing happened.  I can't imagine
> anyone being that stupid.  So much for a year
> without
> legal problems.
> 
> 
> --- Scott Lerman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn't try to excuse such an action on the
> part
> > of anyone, athlete or
> > not, but assuming that House is guilty is a bit
> > premature at this point. A
> > few people down in North Carolina have witnessed
> > first-hand what can happen
> > when false accusations are immediately assumed to
> be
> > true.
> > 
> > On 11/6/07, Adam Parker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to disagree on almost all the points here
> -
> > the benefit of everyone
> > > having an opinion.  I will say that you're right
> > when you talk about not
> > > being punished until proven guilty.  It's crazy
> > that someone can be
> > > suspended just because another person claims
> that
> > they were assaulted in
> > > that manner.  HOWEVER - that's the life you
> choose
> > when you become an
> > > athlete at a premiere school - you are put under
> > more scrutiny.
> > >
> > > I disagree when it comes to the crime.  True,
> most
> > people would slap the
> > > person in the face and walk away - but to imply
> > that it's okay to have this
> > > happen to you because you're in a public
> > establishment, or to imply that you
> > > give up your rights as a human to not be groped,
> > that's ridiculous.  I don't
> > > care who does it to whom, but I don't think
> anyone
> > should have to put up
> > > with another person grabbing their
> > breast/penis/<insert body part here> just
> > > because they are in public.  I'm not saying I
> > think calling the cops is
> > > necessary, but it's well within a person's
> rights,
> > and they are NEVER in the
> > > wrong for doing so.  I'm sorry you feel that
> way.
> > >
> > > As for the newspaper.  I could go either way
> here.
> >  In the end, the paper
> > > has to sell copies, and if stories about
> prominent
> > students at the local
> > > university sells papers, than that's what they
> > will do.  They have the right
> > > to, and if people don't like it, they should
> stop
> > buying it.  It's
> > > unfortunate that it could hurt the kids career,
> > but then again it goes back
> > > to the additional scrutiny that an athlete takes
> > on.  It's unfortunate, but
> > > when you are in that position, you have to be
> more
> > careful.
> > >
> > > For example - I work for a brokerage company.  I
> > can't talk in public
> > > about my thoughts regarding the market or a
> > certain stock, because if
> > > someone thinks I'm speaking on behalf of my
> > company I can get in a lot of
> > > trouble.  It's not fair to me, but it's
> something
> > I accept as part of my
> > > profession.
> > >
> > > In the end - if the story is true - it's a dumb
> > move by House.  If it's
> > > false, than it's a bad move by the BDN.  In
> either
> > case, somebody comes out
> > > being an idiot.  The difference is, the BDN
> > doesn't have to tell anyone if
> > > it's them.
> > >
> > > --Adam
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > On Behalf Of james acheson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:23 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Another suspension based on alleged
> > touching
> > >
> > > not to defend and real wrongdoing, but read and
> > reread the report.
> > >
> > > He has been suspended for alleged touching. 
> This
> > is Napoleonic law,
> > > unfortunately.  Maybe this is how things have to
> > be up there, but I can tell
> > > you I am really happy that in the real world
> there
> > are 3 huge differences.
> > > 1. I get punished after I am proven guilty, not
> > when accused.  And my
> > > punishment when I am proven guilty is doubled
> > because someone else did the
> > > same sort of thing last year, I am judged on
> what
> > I did.
> > > 2. Grabbing a breast in a nighttclub as a man
> > passes a woman is a face
> > > slap offense, or a punch in the mouth, and the
> > police are not called.
> > > 3. Last, in the real world, newspapers that
> print
> > this sort of BS just to
> > > increase circulation when they know that
> > publication of such stories will
> > > ruin a kid's carreer are pretty trashy rags,
> other
> > papers show restraint.
> > >
> > > I know of an NHL all star who used to get caught
> > with young (legal age)
> > > men out in public on a fairly regular basis...
> The
> > Boson police would tell
> > > this guy to take it somewhere else and NOT
> arrest
> > him not because he was a
> > > star, but because that they knew that the
> > punishment would grossly outweigh
> > > the offense.
> > > The Briins would ditch him and nobody would ever
> > pick him up.  I also know
> > > a reporter at a Boston newspaper who said that
> he
> > would never publish these
> > > stories even though he knew of the offenses and
> > where and when to go to get
> > > photographs.  He said that as long as they were
> > consenting adults, he would
> > > not just ruin this guy's NHL career.
> > >
> > > Can the BDN show a little bit or restraint???
> > > Do I have to read it every time Derek Damon
> misses
> > a philosopy class?
> > > Did the BDN HAVE to publish all of the
> > unsubstantiated reports surrounding
> > > the Mike Hamilton and posse incident??? If you
> > remember the story printed,
> > > it sounded like Hammy rounded up 11 hockey
> players
> > and drove over the the
> > > house of the guy who stole his girlfriend to
> have
> > all of his friends kick
> > > the guy's head in.
> > > The BDN NEVER printed a retraction or an apology
> > when the facts came to
> > > light that Mike was invited to the apartment
> which
> > was in the same complex
> > > as where he and the posse were already hanging
> > out, outdoors.
> > > They did not print that when Hammy walked up the
> > walkway, he was met at
> > > the door by the "victim"
> > > wielding a baseball bat and threatening him. 
> They
> > also did not print that
> > > the 4 guys who were arrested for criminal
> trespass
> > were simply standing on a
> > > sidewalk outside the door to the apt, in a
> > perfectly legal place to be.
> > >
> 
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