I wasn't being negative (just inquiring ) and I'm definitely positive! If I
wasn't positive, I woudln't have stooped to BEGGING one of my professors to
let me take a test early (to no avail) so I could go to St.Louis. :-(
(the same guy we were talking about before)
>From: james acheson <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Maine Hockey Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:25:55 -0700
>
>let's just be positive for another 11 days?
> These guys can do it.
>
>
> and I got to see Paul Kariya play for the Predators last night, against
>Dwayne Roloson. anyone remember who Dwayne Roloson is? I think he is the
>ONLY Lowell All American from the last decade or so.
>
>Kathleen Esposito <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Huh? Am I the only one who thinks this team is built around offense? We
>only
>have two really defensive d-men (Lundin and Ramsey) and heck, even our
>goaltender is offensive-minded!
>
>
> >From: Steve Archer
> >Reply-To: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:55:57 -0400
> >
> >I almost never post here but usually read everything. Having watched
> >nearly every home game of the Walsh era up to 95 when I left to college,
> >I think I know why a lot of people are down on whitehead. People rather
> >watch offensive teams over defensive. I don't think it's so much Tim as
> >the game in general changing in the late 90 from offensive to defensive
> >minded. Shawn's teams were more geared around offense and scored more
> >goals than Tim's teams. Tim is a defense first coach where the teams of
> >the late 80's and early 90's tended to focus on offense more and let
> >their all American goalies do their thing. We had King, Delguidice,
> >Dunham, Snow, et al. back then.
> >
> >I may be completely wrong but someone who has them can go back and
> >compare team stats on Goals for / GA and shots taken / shots allowed and
> >see. I admit I'm not a big fan of Tim and can't say why. He does get
> >the job done in the NCAA's but the record in the reg season isn't great.
> >That doesn't mean that I think they'd be better off with another coach.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam Parker
> >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:56 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >
> >
> >Here comes the voice of reason (I'm sure Mosey is the only one who
> >laughed right there):
> >
> >As much of many of us would like to pretend that we can "leave Walsh out
> >of it" - it's impossible to do, and here'd why. Had Tim Whitehead taken
> >over Merrimack, Alabama Huntsville, Dartmouth, or another school that is
> >not a perrenial power like Maine is, then advancing to the Frozen Four 4
> >out of 6 years would be an amazing accomplishment. It would probably
> >get the coach a long, wealthy extension. The coach would get many job
> >offers from "better" schools, and who knows where they would go from
> >there.
> >
> >Unfortunately for Tim, he did not enter into that situation. He
> >followed one of the greatest coaches in history (IMHO - to make sure Bob
> >knows I'm hip). He also followed a team relatively fresh off an NCAA
> >Championship. First, Tim took Shawn's players to the title game, and
> >the knock was that he didn't do it with his own guys. Now he's coaching
> >his own guys, and he's gone to 3 of the last 4 frozen fours.
> >
> >Some would say that it's Tim's fault for not putting together or
> >coaching a team that would get over the hump and win the championship.
> >But, let's compare him to his peers. Has any other coach had the
> >success that Tim has had as far as advancing in the tournament? No -
> >but Mosey is right. Advancing to the Frozen Four will only mean so much
> >after a while, which is why Tim has to win it. Unfortunately for Tim,
> >every step he takes, he's going to be compared to someone. First (as I
> >said) it was "Can he win with his own guys?" Now it's "Can he win the
> >big one?" Eventually it will become "Can he sustain the success?" and
> >so on.
> >
> >When all is said and done - we are a national powerhouse. Slumps like
> >we had at the end of the season are unacceptable. Advancing to the
> >Frozen four this frequently without winning a championship has become
> >unacceptable to some. However, he's still at the top of his game, and
> >having success that nobody else in the country is having (on a national
> >level). Also - one final note - he wasn't on the ice when Maine failed
> >to score on a 6-3 against Denver for a minute to tie the game. There
> >are some situations that he just can't control, as much as we'd like him
> >to.
> >
> >Now - how about this for the next discussion topic: IF YOU CAN'T GO TO
> >COLLEGE, GO TO STATE!
> >
> >1-2-3...M-A-I-N-E....GOOOOO BLUE!
> >
> >--Adam (THE University of Maine - '03)
> >
> > _____
> >
> >From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anthony DelMonaco
> >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:03 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >
> >
> >Well I'd like to see any of our posts on here back in 92? Then again I
> >live in Maine and we just got running water and indoor plumbing last
> >week. I'm not on any meds so I guess you'll have to find something else
> >to pick at. Pardon me I'm 26, I don't remember much of what went on in
> >88 other than playing in a damn sandbox. From now on I'll leave Walsh
> >out of it. Lets start with Dungy, he had a team with great players on it
> >that played well, hello Mr Manning,
> >Vinaimnotgonnasayhisnamebecauseigetheated, Addai, a defense that Maine
> >hockey would kill for, Harrison, the list goes on, these players are all
> >great players who DIDN'T under achieve. My point is that this team has
> >players who SHOULD be doing better than they are. I see a defenseman
> >turning into (and I don't go on USCHO much anymore but I remember this
> >nickname) the Jeff "the Human Pylon" Mushaluk. Other players that have
> >the talent to be among the top scorers in the nation. A rookie who has
> >the best handwork since Gimmetacos, sorry Dimitrakos. Teddy has the
> >ability and skill to be a great hockey player, hell he already is, but
> >at the rate he'll end up being undrafted playing for the Bruins or
> >something awful like that. I know a lot of you people don't live in
> >Maine, fortunately(or maybe it's unfortunately) I do, I'm a proud season
> >ticket holder(no I was still pooping yellow when this team started to
> >get going. I don't remember back in those days because the only thing I
> >was focused on was Tom and Jerry, Fruit Loops and the sandbox) but how
> >many of you saw some of the games at the Alfond this year where they
> >couldn't get the puck out of the zone CONSISTENTLY for the whole game,
> >the sloppy passing, odd man rushes, hanging Bishop out to dry and the
> >list can go on. It seemed like they are trying to get by on their name
> >alone. Unless you're a Kennedy in Massachusetts you can't get by on your
> >name. You have to actually show some signs of life that you want to win.
> >It was hard to sit through some of those games because the game they
> >were playing WASN'T what I can recall Maine Hockey being in my few years
> >that I've been on this planet. It was pathetic, and I know I'm not the
> >only one that feels this way, because a lot of the people leaving the
> >Alfond after these games were saying the same way. Yeah yeah, 4 in 6
> >years. Pardon me, I need to find some meds, I want to hurl.
> >
> >Mosey(THE University of Maine '03)
> >
> >
> >
> >If you don't have the best of everything, make the best of everything
> >you have
> >
> >-Shawn Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Bob Fitta
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:33:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >
> >Okay is this a serious post?????
> >
> >Anthony do you know how many Frozen Fours Shawn Walsh got too before
> >they won in '93? 1988, Maine was #1 in the country, but lost in Lake
> >Placid, 1989 team adversity made it to St. Paul before losing in the
> >semis, and in 1991 Maine lost in the semis to Northern Michigan.
> >
> >By the way Maine also had the #1 team in '92, but lost in the quarters
> >to Michigan State. Would have loved to see your posts back then, after
> >all he couldn't even make it to the championship game!!!!!!! Should
> >have fired him!
> >
> >And I'll take Tony Dungy, if memory serves he won the Super Bowl this
> >year, which is why I wonder if this is all tongue in cheek! I give you
> >credit though, at least your name is on this, unlike the anonymous fools
> >on USCHO!
> >
> >Anthony, I think it's time for your meds, obviously something about Tim
> >rubs you the wrong way, must be that easy going nature of his!
> >
> >Bob Fitta
> >UMaine '83 (Maine's record that year 5-24, 1-20 ECAC!!!!)
> >
> >On Mar 26, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Anthony DelMonaco wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >We have another Tony Dungy on our hands. I'm beginning to choke on all
> >this 4 Frozen Fours in 6 years crap. WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Those guys
> >don't go out there and play a whole season and say hey lets make it to
> >the Frozen Four and then lose, if any of you read the Bangor Daily today
> >Bishop said they're there to win it, hopefully he doesn't get let down,
> >along with the rest of us. So if Maine doesn't pull it off in St. Louis
> >we're gonna have hear about Tim's 4th Frozen Four in 6 years and still
> >no titles, more hyped up players coming into the program that under
> >achieve, but hey that's ok, he's been to 4 Frozen Fours in 6 years.
> >We're turning into the Atlanta Braves, OR, and I hate to say it because
> >Nonni is gonna jump all over me, THE RED SOX!!!! Give me a break.
> >
> >mosey come lately
> >
> >
> >
> >If you don't have the best of everything, make the best of everything
> >you have
> >
> >-Shawn Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Bob Fitta
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:10:35 AM
> >Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >
> >Well it looks like we have found our next coach! Scott Lerman!
> >
> >Bruce thank you for what you stated so eloquently and I have tried to do
> >on this and other boards, but was not as thoughtful.
> >
> >Great article on Tim at College Hockey News
> >
> >http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2007/03/24_maineman.php that
> >addresses people that feel the same way Scott does.
> >
> >I have often said we're in the silent majority, but we have built up a
> >very spoiled fan base of Johnny-come-lately followers. When you
> >consider this is Tim's 4th Frozen Four in 6 YEARS and over that same
> >course of time, BU has been to 0, UNH to 2, Michigan has not been to one
> >since Buffalo and Minnesota has missed the last 2 you have to scratch
> >your head and wonder what the hell people are complaining about.
> >
> >No question it was a frustrating year, but where are they now? And
> >please don't give me the weak bracket crap, Maine went where they were
> >told to go and did what was required!
> >
> >Bob Fitta
> >UMAINE "83
> >
> >On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Scott Lerman wrote:
> >
> >
> >On 3/25/07, Bruce Hale < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >He has turned around a collapsing, demoralized team
> >
> >
> >And why was the team collapsing? They weren't doing things that even I
> >know to do, specifically hitting people, standing guys up at the blue
> >line, and getting a forward in front of the net instead of putting all
> >three of them behind the net.
> >
> >
> >
> >in the one of the most difficult tournaments there is
> >
> >
> >Tournament, maybe, but Maine was in arguably the weakest regional.
> >Michigan State had to beat BU and Notre Dame. BC had it almost as easy
> >as Maine, thanks to Miami upsetting UNH. Whoever wins the
> >Minnesota/North Dakota game obviously had to win that game. Beating St.
> >Cloud (who only had 4 wins against tournament teams, 2 each against
> >Clarkson and Minnesota) and UMass (who's only wins against tournament
> >teams were Maine, BC, and UNH, and went 3-2-2 against teams outside
> >Hockey East, including a tie against Clarkson and a loss to Alabama)
> >isn't an exceptionally spectacular feat.
> >
> >--
> >Scott Lerman
> >
> >
> >
> >
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