In article <[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask] writes:
>FRIDAY, JANUARY 15: UAH- 1, RPI- 4.
>that Mc-D seemed to call more penalties vs. Alabama than RPI and vice versa
>for Cerbo, so the two refs complemented each other. Interesting. I score Mc-D
>an 8 out of 10 for his job, and cerbo gets a 4 out of 10.
Rich, how do you base your rating system? It seems silly to me to try and
"grade" the refs, especially from where you sit on the fence.
> Though we won, we didn't play at peak. This is division 2 we were
>against- we should've won by at least 10 goals! But at least we won on Friday.
What? I guess you didn't read my previous post.
>SATURDAY, JANUARY 16: UAH- 5, RPI- 5
> This is a dangerous situation. I stuffed my face at this game with
>hamburgers from the dining hall, a pretzel, chocolate and several containers of
>apple juice. Such a poor performance by the engineers could've made me throw up
>everywhere- on the players entering/leaving the rink via the ramp to my left
I wish you had so that one of them would have wacked you with their stick.
> Yes, as you can tell, this was not just a BAD game, it was a BAAAAAAA-
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD game!!!!!!! Not only did we play lousily, but we
Bull****.
>used ONLY reserve goalies Carvel and Tamburro, the former of which injured
>himself, and the refereeing stank!!!!
If you had bothered to read my earlier post, which it seems you did from some
of your comments in this posting, you wouldn't be so critical. Carvel got a
chance to play because he may never have another one. At least not a starting
role. Watching him in warmups I knew it would be a long night for RPI. But
I'm not blaming him. He's a backup goalie. That's been his role ever since
he got to RPI. Of course he didn't play like Neil, but he's still a good goalie
and he made several nice stops.
As for Tamburro, he's going to be a great one. He's got loads of potential and
he works hard in practice. In case you missed it, the reason UAH came backe
was due to a lack of defense. Mike played excellently in the nets. And Neil
really needed the break.
> Carvel started and gave up three goals in the first 25 minutes, the
>third of which was after he pulled a muscle in his left knee area and couldn't
>recover for the quick save. Tamburro had a slightly better performance, but
>not good enough to maintain the lead, after UAH put in their stronger goalie
>to stop our offense. This was also an oversight on Buddy's part, too.
See above.
>QUESTION- Why couldn't Buddy have started Carvel one night, and Tamburro the
>other with Little available both nights for relief, if needed? We would more
>likely have had two wins then.
Because Buddy's the coach and that's what he decided. A perfect choice in my
opinion. But my opinion, or yours, doesn't really matter because we have no
say in that decision.
> REFEREES: Belanger and Noeth. After all these years, I can now
>appreciate Jeremy's lamentations about this guy when he works Clarkson games.
>(Belanger, that is.) As for the other ref- forgive him, Lord, he NOETH not
>what he does!!! Here is the game penalty breakdown, the first time I have ever
Baloney. Belanger is not a very good ref in my opinion (though Kenny likes
him) but he did a fair job. As for Noeth, I thought he was greatly improved
over his last Field House appearance.
>kept stats like this-
What's the point of this? There's much more to officiating than just numbers.
If this is how you're rating officials, then I'm appalled that you consider
yourself knowledgeable about the game.
>successive ones called against RPI! Things that make you go hmmmm. I score
>Belanger a 3/10 and Noeth a 2/10 for their subpar performances.
I don't understand how you can rate referees. Unless you've ever tried it
yourself, you probably don't know exactly how hard it is. I know because I
used to be up there in the stands saying the same things about the refs. Rich,
this is just pathetic of you.
>THE FANS THIS WEEKEND
Now here's a topic I would love to get into.
>have my moments.) And the "Hey ref, you suck!" isn't totally valid anymore
>since the two ref system was adopted.Fans should do what I have just begun to
>do this past weekend- keep track of calls per ref to find out how each one is
>doing, then learn their names and deliver catcalls to the appropriate
>official. OR If they're both lousy, then scream "Hey, RefS- you both Suck!"
Rich, this is SOOO silly. And also immature.
>Also, know who is which official! In the 2nd game vs UAH, I heard one
>knuckleheaded lass yell "HIT THE REF! HIT THE REF!" when the puck was
>hurtling towars/near the LINESMAN!!!!!!!!! Finally, all fans should subscribe
WHAT???? As much as I hate people calling a linseman a ref and vice versa, how
about looking at the more important thing here. Why yell at the ref at all?
>to HOCKEY-L so that they may be more educated, and know the inside story of
>some of the other teams, so that they can verbally pick them apart at the
Like you?
>THE BAND
>
>The worst thing the Pep Band does nowadays is conducting the cheers. I rarely
>hear the "Sieve...Funnel...Vacuum...Black Hole...etc." cheer anymore, and I
>haven't seen their posterboard depicting the ref with glasses in a long time!
Actually, I'm starting to get tired of this whole attitude (sorry to all you
avid fans who love those cheers and enthusiastically join in). In high school
I played on a football team that insisted on class. We were very much like
the Redskins organization (for those of you who follow football also) and
coming to RPI was almost a culture shock. I joined in for a while but now I'm
sick of it. I love hockey far too much to degrade it with all these silly
chants.
>Unless they get their act together, I'm going to start wishing for an organ
>to be installed in the field house for the use at college games, or maybe a
There already is an organ in the Field House and you DON'T want to hear it.
The guy who plays it during CD Islander games is horrible. Much more so than
the band.
>MISCELLANY
>
> In Friday's game, some fan supposedly was using a whistle. I didn't
>hear it, but were any of you budding refs responsible??? :) ..... On saturday,
Absolutely not!!!!
>UUENCODE them so you can FTP them and view 'em? .... For those who have
>criticized me at games, let me explain that i only yell at the ref after what I
>feel to be a really bad call (usually once or twice per GAME), and I only flip
Why yell at the refs at all? From what I've seen Rich, it's much more often
than just on the really bad calls. And besides, that's Buddy's job anyways.
>off an opposing player as he heads to the box after a roughing or fighting
>call, or the opposing team's coach if he's really bitching out the ref. That's
>not too bad, c'mon. My trademark is during the post-goal "1..2..3....we want
Sorry, but I disagree. Flipping off an opposing player is about the lowest
form of sportsmanship there is. You might boo him for being an idiot, but I
really don't see any place in sports for such abusive and vulgar behavior.
Fortunately, I think the NHL is beginning to realize this and turn hockey
around at the highest levels.
>to the opposing goalie. At 6'3" and having a 8'6" reach, I extend over 5' over
8'6"? Yesterday I thought you said 9'4" or something like that.
>FINALLY, THE REF POLL
>
> My personal ref poll is this (and their scores)
>
Actually, I think a ref poll would be pretty humorous.
>I'm starting up my own ref poll. Who do you think is the best/mediocre/worst
>refs in the ECAC? Better yet, any conference. Include scores, if you can.
>Definitely give me the ranking, ref name and conference!
>DUE DATE: Tuesday, January 26 at MIDNIGHT (same as HOCKEY-L poll) and every
>Tuesday afterwards, with publication on Wednesdays.
>Send responses to [log in to unmask]
>
>
>-Rich Vehlow, [log in to unmask]
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