the most elegant solution i ever saw to this issue was when a third
player on a team got sent to the box (to feel shame, of course) when
two teammates were already there (no joe mcgrath coaching in omaha in
48 award) with 0:45 and 1:30 on the clocks.
The timekeeper just reset the times to 2:45 and 1:30 respectively.
worked wonders, and once the coaches (and players) understood what the
timekeeper was doing, it worked marvelously.
the number of times showing up on the scoreboard accurately reflected
how many players short a team should be on the ice.
a player could return to the ice when a timer ticked down to 0
a player could leave after serving his time at a stoppage without
impacting how many players were on the ice.
> Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 08:46:01 -0400
> From: John T Whelan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Too many men on the ice?
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> On Sat, 16 May 2009, Henry wrote:
>
> > John Edwards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Henry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>> In the recent Ice Hockey World Championship (IHWC) in Switzerland, in
> >>> one game there was a very unusual situation that made me wonder about
> >>> the rules. One team already had two men in the penalty box when they got
> >>> yet another minor. The offending player immediately went into the box
> >>> but of course his time couldn't start counting until one of his
> >>> teammates left the box. That happened during play; the first penalty
> >>> expired and the player skated out.
>
> >>> At that point, shouldn't that team have been guilty of too many players on
> >>> the ice?
>
> >> Since that would presumably be a timekeeper's error, I think any
> >> referee would have a hard time punishing a team for it.
>
> > Right; that's what I thought should have happened -- but it didn't. The
> > door opened, A1 emerged and skated straight over to his bench.
> > Timekeeper's error, then, but still the referee should have noticed that
> > they had four men on the ice when they were supposed to have two in the
> > box. Fortunately for said timekeeper, all the action was concentrated
> > down around the penalised team's goal. What if they had cleared to
> > centre ice right while A1 was going across? Or, even worse, if they had
> > got a short-handed breakaway? Thank luck the course of the game was not
> > altered by this.
>
> The opposite problem occurred in an RIT-Air Force game in Rochester
> this season:
>
> http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0809/boxes/mafarit1.f27
>
> At 5:56 Air Force's Tim Kirby took a double minor and RIT's Anton
> Kharin took a minor penalty, but the refs neglected to put a second
> Air Force player in the box. During the course of Kharin's minor, RIT
> took another penalty and then scored a 4x4 goal. So at 7:56 Kirby's
> first penalty ended, but the penalty box official (correctly) did not
> open the door because he was the only Air Force player in the box and
> still had two more minutes to serve. Of course Air Force was then
> entitled to have a fifth skater since the second RIT penalty was the
> only one still on the board, so both Kirby and everyone on the AFA
> bench started making a ruckus, so the penalty box official relented
> and let him out, and Air Force promptly scored a power play goal.
> Kirby was on the ice at the time, even though he was actually supposed
> to be in the penalty box.
> John Whelan
> Cornell '91
>
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