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Larry Weintraub <[log in to unmask]>
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Larry Weintraub <[log in to unmask]>
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That's where I'm a little confused.  The corrected article on USCHO said
NOTHING about bad losses.  I got the feeling that wasn't going to be part of
the adjustment.  I'd love to know how big an adjustment this is, too.  For
example, Cornell currently trails Maine in the RPI by 0.0002.  Can't imagine
the adjustments are smaller than that.  It looks like this could very likely
influence which Eastern #1 gets sent West to play in somebody else's home
rink.

Before I get too indignant, the 25/50/25 formula that generates RPI is both
flawed and arbitrary to begin with, so what the heck.  I did like the
transparency we had for a half decade, though.

Gets difficult to get a coach to sit there with his team "on the bubble"
during the selection show when everybody watching (including them) knows
before whether they are in or not from PWR.

Larry
Go Big Red

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Ambrose" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: back to the smoke-filled room


> All true, but this has to be offset by "bad losses".  Somebody tell me
about
> those.  All I know is that UNH lost to St. Lawrence at home in December
and
> has some "bad ties" (do they count?) against Lowell and Northestern (2 in
> fact).
>
> My personal feeling is that this stuff will all even out.  Ian McCaw said
> that when they used this formula on last year's selections, it didn't
change
> a thing.  My guess is that this new wrinkle was added just to give the
> selection committee some wiggle room to seed teams into the regionals they
> want to.  Don't forget, it IS all about money.
>
> Greg Ambrose
>
> > From: Patrick Abegg <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: Patrick Abegg <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:40:56 -0500
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: back to the smoke-filled room
> >
> > A quick look on winners from this system:
> >
> > Cornell has 2 wins over BU
> > Harvard has nothing
> >
> > Providence has 2 wins over MSU-Mankato
> > Maine has win over Cornell
> > BC has win over Denver
> > UNH has a win and a tie with Minnesota
> > BU has 2 wins over Harvard, 1 over BC and Michigan
> >
> > Denver has win over UNH
> > CC has win over Maine
> > Minnesota has win over BC and a tie with UNH
> > St Cloud has 2 wins over Providence and a win over Ferris
> > North Dakota has win over Michigan
> > MSU-Mankato has nothing
> >
> > Ferris has win over SC
> > Michigan has nothing
> > Ohio St has win over Cornell
> > Michigan St has nothing
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erik J Biever
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:17 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: back to the smoke-filled room
> >
> > I expect that the "exact percentage bonus" won't be known until the
> > committee knows which teams and/or conferences it wants to reward by
> > applying it.
> >
> > Let me be the first to say that the WCHA didn't get enough respect from
> > the committee.
> >
> > -- Erik
> >
> >> http://www.uscho.com/news/2003/02/26_006290.php
> >>
> >> "According to Division I men's ice hockey committee chair Ian McCaw, a
> >> 'bonus component' will reward teams for 'good wins' by adding
percentage
> >> points to their Ratings Percentage Index (RPI)."
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> "Though the system remains objective  because the bonus is precisely
> >> defined  the NCAA has not published the exact percentage bonus that
will
> >> be given.
> >>
> >> 'This will add a little mystery to [selection] Sunday,' said McCaw."
> >>
> >> I guess the committee got tired of having all the selection criteria
> >> available for examination by the public.  Now we can go back to
grumbling
> >> about how much respect our favorite conferences get from the committee.
> >>
> >> -- Erik
> >>
>

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