Every one of those kids has a parent or two. Sounds like a parental training problem to me. How about we take pictures of 10 each game, identify them, and send a little note to their parents?

TJT
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From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol White [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: profanity at hockey games

WOW.

How many students are in that student "section"?  They would have a problem
ejecting the entire student section at Mariucci.

That very same announcement is made at Mariucci before every game - mandated
by the ever popular NC$$.

I really don't understand their focus on the word "sucks".  And I wonder how
this goes over at Yost Arena, as I understand they are really bold with
their chants there.

At Minnesota, they have tried to eliminate this word and all bad language.
The only chant I really have a problem with is "F*** the (Team name here)".


I suppose we will all have to be on guard at the Frozen Four.

Carol
GO Gophers!!!


On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> This article appeared in the Sunday Albany Times Union on Feb 27.
> (hopefully, the copyright police won't come after me at my undisclosed
> location on a small island near the north pole).
>
> I offer this without comment
>
>
>
>
> SCHENECTADY -- Before every Union
> College<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Union+College%22
> >hockey
> game, the announcement is the same:
>
> "We request your cooperation by supporting the participants and officials
> in
> a positive manner. Profanity, racial or sexist comments or other
> intimidating actions directed at officials, student-athletes, coaches or
> team representatives ... are grounds for removal from the site of
> competition and other disciplinary actions."
>
> And they're not kidding.
>
> Students who yell chants the school has deemed vulgar or offensive are
> getting the boot from Union hockey games. The practice began midway through
> last season, students said, and while school officials claim it's in the
> name of promoting sportsmanship, some students said it's gone too far.
>
> "I understand not allowing vulgar language," senior John
> Russell<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22John+Russell%22
> >said,
> "but not allowing fans to express emotion during games is a bit much."
>
> Students said public safety officers have come down hard on the use of the
> word "sucks" during games, ejecting any students who use it to jeer
> opposing teams.
>
> At Friday night's game against Quinnipiac
> University<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Quinnipiac+University%22
> >,
> Russell was one of some 15 students who stood on the last row of the lower
> student section, just below the band. Justin
> Zolot<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Justin+Zolot%22
> >waved
> a garnet flag with Union's seal on it, banging its pole against the
> bench to make noise.
>
> The team, ranked fifth in the nation, moved on to the playoffs after Friday
> night's game that ended in a 2-2 tie after overtime.
>
> Friday night, chants were clean and employed the use of an emphatic "let's
> go," but Russell and others in the group said they have been threatened
> with
> ejection in the past. At a recent home game against Cornell
> University<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Cornell+University%22
> >,
> he said, the entire student section was threatened with removal.
>
> "It keeps us from supporting the school," he said.
>
> Athletic Director Jim
> McLaughlin<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Jim+McLaughlin%22
> >said
> the directive to remove those who yell less-than-polite chants came
> from him and other athletic department staff, and is in step with
> NCAA<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22NCAA%22
> >principles
> of good sportsmanship and conduct.
>
> "They rely on the individual campuses to enforce and set up the right
> atmosphere," McLaughlin said. "Essentially we expect positive behavior that
> respects all of those in the building."
>
> McLaughlin said the department coordinated with the school's public safety
> department to enforce the rules, and pointed to the warning announced
> before
> every game.
>
> But senior Danielle
> Mendiola<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Danielle+Mendiola%22
> >said
> the message is broadcast about 10 minutes before each game, when the
> student section is largely empty.
>
> "Ninety-eight percent of fans aren't here at the time of the announcement,"
> she said, adding how most students get to games two to three minutes before
> they begin, at the earliest.
>
> Mendiola lamented what she called the rules' inconsistency and a failure by
> school officials to effectively communicate them.
>
> "My biggest frustration with it is it's not a set rule," she said. "They
> almost never have an issue when we say, 'see ya, (expletive),' but they get
> mad when we say 'sucks.' "
>
> Students often chant "See ya, (expletive)" when a player on the opposing
> team gets sent to the penalty box, but lately, Mendiola said, school
> officials have been seen directing the band to play over the chant.
>
> At Cornell, she said, a sign clearly states profanity is not allowed, and
> Union officials should at least send a campuswide e-mail delineating
> the policy.
>
> "I would be willing to do different chants if they (officials) weren't so
> wishy-washy," she said.
>
> On Thursday, the majority of students approached on campus by a Times
> Union<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Times+Union%22
> >reporter
> had not heard of the rule.
>
> "They've done that?!" freshman Dylan
> Tripodi<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Dylan+Tripodi%22
> >said
> when asked if he knew of students being removed from games.
> "That's awful."
>
> The large group of standing students at Friday's game shows up every time,
> Russell said, and their chants are mild compared to other schools.
>
> Mendiola said announcers at rival RPI purposely pause after announcing each
> opposing team player's name, giving time for fans to yell "sucks" after
> each name.
>
> The word "sucks" and its variants are staples of many RPI hockey chants,
> such as one where students yell "sucking" over the announcer as he reports
> which penalty a certain player is headed to the penalty box for.
>
> Fans are also known for yelling, "He sucks too," after the name of an
> opposing coach is called, and as the clock winds down during games against
> any opponent, fans shout out their biggest rival, Clarkson
> University<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Clarkson+University%22
> >,
> when they chant, "And Clarkson still sucks."
>
> "It's so different at so many schools," Mendiola said.
>
> At Boston University<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Boston+University%22
> >,
> an athletics department spokesman said the arena has an equally strict
> policy about foul language put in place in 2006. The policy arose to
> eliminate one specific chant during hockey games: "(expletive) 'em up,
> (expletive) 'em up, 'cause they suck."
>
> Since the rule was put in place, the chant stopped, and games were made
> more
> family-friendly.
>
> On Friday night, much to students' chagrin, that's exactly what happened
> at Union.
>
> "I think it's stupid," senior Kristin
> Joyce<
> http://www.timesunion.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=local&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Kristin+Joyce%22
> >said.
> "I think it's good fun -- just part of the game."
>
> Read more:
>
> http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Union-s-goal-No-foul-mouths-1032242.php#ixzz1FAymcKLt
>



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Carol S. White

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