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Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:32:39 -0800
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Agree completely.

And it's not just cheating by the centers that's endemic.  Has anyone seen a faceoff lately in nobody other than the centers were inside the circle?

--- On Mon, 2/27/12, J. Michael Neal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: J. Michael Neal <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Centers getting tossed
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 6:52 PM
> Weighing in late due to the vagaries
> of the spam filter . . . 
> 
> From what I can see, cheating on face-offs is endemic. There
> is an easy solution to it: enforce the rules. Rather than
> all of this delay dropping the puck, tell the teams to line
> up. If a team cheats, toss the center. If that team cheats
> again, send someone to the box for delay of game. Those are
> the rules, and doing this would end face-off cheating pretty
> quickly. As things stand, I've never seen the penalty
> called. What happens is that once the first player gets
> tossed, the officials are out of bullets to put a stop to
> it, and so they don't. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:27:04 PM 
> Subject: Re: Centers getting tossed 
> 
> I agree with Rich. There's so much pressure to win faceoffs,
> that many 
> players look for an edge. I watched a Maine player stand ON
> the faceoff 
> dot last night hoping for a quick drop of the puck. He got a
> warning, then 
> the boot. If they'd just give 'em the boot in the first
> place, maybe it 
> would work into faster faceoffs. It works for other actions.
> Hold the 
> stick ... you get 2 minutes. Much less holding now. 
> 
> What bugs me is the new tendency to stay down after hitting
> the boards, 
> looking for for the 5-minute call ... a big game changer. I
> must admit 
> it's hard to tell when a player is really shaken up. Maybe
> it's just 
> coincidence when the victim gets up and skates easily to the
> bench as soon 
> as the major is announced. Don't get me wrong, concussions
> are terrible 
> injuries. I just wonder sometimes. 
> 
> Cheers, Wayne 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rich Shelley <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote: 
> 
> > it's usually determined by an official not conducting
> the face-off (the 
> > other linesman, or the center ice ref -- that's because
> the face-off rules 
> > are being violated by players other than the centers
> (most often, the wings 
> > on the board breaking into the circle, which the center
> ice ref is 
> > responsible for) -- boo if we will, but in-zone
> face-offs are kinda 
> > critical, so violations are kinda significant.... 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- From: Clay Satow 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:19 PM 
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> > Subject: Re: Centers getting tossed 
> > 
> > 
> > At the Beanpot finals last Monday, centers were being
> tossed to the point 
> > that the crowd was booing. And it wasn't just the
> linesmen. Sometimes the 
> > whistle was being blown by the referee at center ice. 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Joe Makowiec <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote: 
> > 
> > From: Joe Makowiec <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> >> Subject: Centers getting tossed 
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> >> Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 12:04 PM 
> >> In Friday's RPI/Q'pac contest, I saw 
> >> more centers get tossed from faceoffs than I have
> all season 
> >> combined. Did we just get a linesman with a pea
> stuck 
> >> up his whistle, or is this going to be a trend? And
> if 
> >> so, why so close to the playoffs? 
> >> 
> >> Joe 
> >> -- Joe Makowiec can be reached at: 
> >> http://makowiec.org/contact/?**Joe <http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe> 
> >> http://makowiec.org/ 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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