Bob Norton LOL, apparently he is either trying to jinx UND or actually likes
the Sioux and Jordan Parise.


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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: WCHA awards


I think Nathan is confusing my comment with one posted by Eric Burton.  I
made
no piscine allusions, but only suggested that Bob Norton would give the
award
to Jordan Parise.

--Erik

SCSU wrote:
> The goalie position is the hardest to justify in many cases. First of all
> (Erik) there are no style points so even if he smells like a fish, much
less
> flops like one out of water, the point is does the puck stay out of the
net.
> Another thing about goalie picks is the team in front of them. Wisconsin
is
> a solid and tough defensive team, and unfortunately for Elliot (and
> Charlie), that reputation of the team works against the goalie. Now St.
> Cloud's defense is akin to Swiss cheese, and given that the Huskies were
> picked for ninth in the league and finished sixth, the question becomes
why
> the great improvement or performance far in excess of expectations. The
one
> and only answer to that is Bobby Goepfert. Goepfert was clearly the
biggest
> surprise and added more value to his team than any other player. Whether
> that is the criteria for the award is another issue.
>
> I have not seen anyone define the criteria for the awards. Sometimes MVP
> voting is "best player in the league" and sometimes it is "most valuable
> player to his team." That is a big difference because the first definition
> favors a player on a good team, but the second favors a player on an
average
> team. "Best" and "most-important" are two different things. What criteria
> the voters are applying for the WCHA teams can be very different than what
> people think they should be.
>
> The only award which matters is that team trophy which says national
> champions. No matter what the individual award, most any player would
trade
> those for the one team award.
>
> Nathan Hampton
>
>
> On 3/31/06 12:17 AM, "Charles Sackett" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>>In no way am I trying to undercut the skill or the success of Bobby
>>Goepfert, but I am totally confused as to how he is named first team All-
>>WCHA, while Brian Elliott is named to the second team.  INCH has named
>>Elliott All-America first team and he is in the final 3 for the Hobey
Baker.
>>
>>This reminds me of 1988-89 when Curtis Joseph was named Top Player in the
>>WCHA (akin to MVP I suppose), yet Robb Stauber received All-WCHA first
team
>>and Top Goalie accolades.
>>
>>Am I missing something here?  Who votes on these things?
>>
>>
>>Charlie
>
>
> .
>