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Despite what Bemidji State may want, CHA is going away.  They've tried to
get more teams to join to get back up to the minimum six teams for two years
now with no success.  Seeing the writing on the wall, Robert Morris and
Niagara have already applied for and been accepted into Atlantic Hockey.
Even if they were to reneg on that invitation, it is unlikely that the NCAA
would continue to extend their autobid to a 4 team league again. The fact
that they extended the autobid for a  second year is amazing but that was
done to encourage the CHA recruiting effort to get back to six teams.

Unless there is a complete reversal of the past, the CHA is history (or at
least the CHA with an NCAA autobid is history)

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Rowe, Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> First, does BSU really want to move?  Look what happened here.  They won a
> conference and received an automatic bid, played great for two games (I
> sincerely hope it continues - What a story if they win it all!!), and have a
> ticket to the big dance.  This is an easier route than it would be in a
> bigger, tougher conference.  Second, as pointed out by Hambone, such a move
> would decimate the fledgling CHA.
>
> Simple inertia would seem to dictate nothing much is going to happen, but
> lets go left field here.  There is precedent of conferences
> forming/reforming and teams moving around in them.   Maybe its time to look
> at all the players in all the conferences and reformulate them so they make
> maximal geographic sense.  I'm not entirely sure what that would be.  I'm
> going to ponder this and post a scenario for others to laugh at sometime
> soon.
>
> Tom Rowe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hambone
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
>
> What happens to the two or three member CHA?  Seems the two or three
> remaining schools would hold onto the auto-bid for dear life.  Seems a
> revised CHA, maybe CHA CHA with DWTS sponsorship, would form the basis for a
> new league to include both AK teams, UNO, CC, Den along with Notre Dame and
> North Dakota.  Moving MichTech to the CCHA aka MNOH (minnow) league and
> leaving the WCHA aka MN (Mini) league with an auto-bid.  Still some tweaking
> to be done and yield more inter-conference  play during the season.  Does
> seem better than a Big Ten conference, although it seems the Big Ten would
> have lots of bucks to gain from such a move.  Seems the camel's nose is
> under the tent.  Yet, a flick on the nose might just end all this
> speculation as the camel trots off into a Northern MN sunset.  Seems this
> might have as much life as a camel in MN.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
>
>
> >NMU would be the most likely team to move over, but I seem to recall
> >that they moved to the CCHA to get better access to the Detroit
> >marketplace, and I'm not sure those considerations have changed any.
> >If MTU were going to go back to the CCHA, it seems that they would have
> >done it quickly after Northern left. From what I remember at the time,
> >their view was that their participation in the GLI gave them sufficient
> >recognition in the Detroit area.
> >
> >As for UNO, I think their window for joining the WCHA has closed. When
> >UNO added hockey, it would have made the most sense for them to join
> >the WCHA, because UNO was a member of the North Central Conference -
> >along with UND, SCSU, Mankato and Duluth. Therefore, some of their
> >hockey opponents would have been the same as their football and
> >basketball opponents - schools UNO was used to dealing with. However,
> >the disintegration of the NCC sent UNO into a different conference than
> >the Minnesota schools, so that incentive is gone.
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Eric Burton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> The most logical is for UAH to join the CCHA and to have UNO or NMU
> >> join
> the
> >> WCHA. I have heard that
> >> MTU really wants NMU to rejoin the WCHA. I kind of missed the
> >> Wildcats
> and I
> >> also think UNO would be a very nice fit for our league.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lewin" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:14 AM
> >> Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
> >>
> >>
> >>> And therein lies the problem.
> >>>
> >>> The most logical would be for both Bemidji and Huntsville to join
> >>> the WCHA.
> >>> But the WCHA probably doesn't want Huntsville because of their
> >>> location
> or
> >>> their perceived lack of parity with other WCHA schools.
> >>>
> >>> If the WCHA doesn't want Huntsville (and that is just an assumption
> >>> on
> my
> >>> part), what makes you think that the CCHA would want them? What
> >>> makes
> you
> >>> think that the WCHA wants Northern Michigan after they jumped ship
> >>> once before?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bob Gilreath <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then
> >>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical to
> >>>> me.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Gilreath wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then
> >>>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical
> >>>>> to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> my speculation is that WCHA does not want to be an 11 team league.
> >>>>>> That means that for Bemidji to become a member, there either must
> >>>>>> be
> a
> >>>>>> 12th team (who?) or someone has to leave (again, who?)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Date:     Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:56:46 -0400
> >>>>>>> From: Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>>>> Subject: is the WCHA paying attention?
> >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So what do you think? Do you think perhaps Bemidji State is
> >>>>>>> making its case for acceptance into the WCHA?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >John Edwards
> >I used to put quotes here.
> >
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