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John Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
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John Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:55:32 -0600
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On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Vandelay Industries wrote:
 
> many reasons.  One, the campus and arena are public facilities.
 
Yes, and no. It is true that UND (and therefore Englestad Arena) are
publicly owned. However, simply being publicly-owned does not necessarily
make something a public facility, in the sense of a park. The body that
controls the facility still retains some right to restrict entry, and to
place conditions on one's entry. If that were not the case, then one could
argue that UND (or any other State-owned school) could not charge
admission to games played at on-campus arenas or stadia, and that one
could not charge admission to any event held at a city-owned facility.
 
For example, most airports are owned by some public entity (either the
federal government, or a local port authority), but I must consent to
passing through a metal detector in order to access certain areas of the
facility. Similarly, in order to enter the Canadian Parliament buildings,
I must consent to the same sort of search. And there are some portions of
the Parliament buildings (the chambers themselves, private offices) that I
can not enter.
 
In short: their house, their rules. Obviously there are reasonable limits
on this. Strip-searches are not reasonable, the standard patting-down
search probably is.
 
> Two, searches are only done on students.
 
There may be grounds for a complaint on this basis, that they are
discriminating against students. OTOH, it may be that they can show a
justification for this: i.e. students attempt to smuggle much more booze
into games than townies do, or that because students are mostly underage,
they are looking for criminal offences. I'm sure there is case law on
this somewhere, but I haven't the time to look it up.
 
> Today, it is -8 up here!  In order to survive you must wear bulky clothing.
 
Wimp! It's just as cold here, and I wore a t-shirt to my first class this
morning. :-P
 
> Hockey content---->  UND goalie Aaron Schweitzer has reinjured his
> groin.  Karl Goehring will most likely be the starter the rest of the season.
 
No big loss. Schweitzer was pretty wretched, even when he was playing.
It's not a coincidence to me that UND's turnaround came when Goehring
started getting more of the ice time. The only downside for UND might
be if Andy Kollar (?), the third-stringer, has to be de-red-shirted
(green-shirted, perhaps?).
 
ObHockey: Last night: U of M Women 14, Crappy Sr. B team 0. Too bad we
couldn't have found 3 or 4 of those goals two days ago.... :-|
 
See you later,
John (B.A. [Law & Poli Sci])
 
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