There may have been some collegiate sports confusion here with St. John's which used to be called the Redman, in reference to their red uniforms.  It was changed due to the general and incorrect assumption that it referred to Native Americans.  I believe McGill is still named the Redman, again in reference to uniform color as well as it is believed also possibly a reference to the founder's Scottish ancestry.

It sounds like Miami was also interchangeably the the Big Reds, the Reds and Whites, and the Big Red-Skinned Warriors.  The Redskins is the name that stuck around until changed to the Redhawks.

Thank you,

Doug Peterson

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>From: Moller Edward N <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Apr 9, 2010 12:04 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: News from North Dakota
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>Miami was not called the Redmen.  They were the Redskins.  And I definitely see something wrong with that.
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>Ed Moller
>Glad I didn't go to Detroit.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rowe, Thomas
>Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:33 AM
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>Subject: Re: News from North Dakota
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>Bummer.  I hope I don't get flak from people who are defending First Nations or Native Americans rights to own their tribal names in terms of nicknames, but I rather liked the Sioux for bucking the NCAA and sticking by their rights.  I never saw anything wrong with the Miami Redmen, either.  BTW, for those of you who do not live back East, have you noticed how Eastern announcers tend to pronounce the Red Hawks to make them sound like "Red Hots?"  At least they aren't insisting that North Dakota change its State name.
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>Tom Rowe 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol White
>Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:02 AM
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>Subject: News from North Dakota
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>It was decided yesterday from the Board of Education of North Dakota, that the University of North Dakota would "retire" the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo.
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>Melrose and Thorne actually announced this in the middle of the first game yesterday.
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>Wonder what the new name will be and how much it will cost to remove all those logos from the Ralph.
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>Enquiring minds....
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>Carol
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