Arthur,

I see your point but I do not agree.  In the case of LeNeveu your argument
is particularly weak.

See:
http://cornellbigred.ocsn.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/061003aaa.html

Among several other academic honors LeNevue was an Academic
All-American.  I do not know him personally but from second hand
information he is a very serious student.  The hockey team members at
Cornell (and probably many other schools perhaps including  BU) are
statistically very similar in the academic qualifications and achievements
to the general student body.  There are certainly Div.1 programs where this
is not the case and there is even some variation among the Ivy's.  The
Ivy's try to reduce the temptation to "cheat" by having league wide rules
that are monitored.  I am sure some teams push the limits of the rules a
lot and others less.  The least qualified students admitted to any of the
Ivy's will never be a recruited athlete.  Bill Taylor's example of George
Bush is of course very obvious. If George had been recruited as a athlete
he probably would not been admitted because of the league rules. To assert
all Div.1 programs are the same is too simplistic.  I bet at some of the
Div. 1 programs the hockey players are academically actually better than
the average of the student body because of the sources of players versus
the rest of their student body and Prop. 48.

I am sorry about this line which may have struck a nerve.

"I think college hockey is better for the presence of the Ivy teams"

What I wanted to say is that Div.1 needs all the programs it can muster and
I don't think we want to see any programs drop out or become less
competitive.

I am also sorry if I started and old thread inadvertently.  In the case of
LeNeveu I just though it was inappropriate to allege he did not belong at
Cornell where he was by all accounts very happy and obvious doing very well
as a student.

Steve



At 7/9/03 11:25 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:


>On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Steve Rockey wrote:
>
> > Arthur Berman BU74, Harvard90 wrote concerning Texas goalie McKee:
> > >This sounds like a pro transaction to me.  So much for educational
> > >priorities being top priority at Ivy League schools.
> >
> > You imply some sort of dirty trick.
> >
>I was not singling out Cornell, all the big Div. I programs, including
>Harvard and BU, are glorified semipros, I just happen to be partial to BU.
>The idea that athletic teams in the NC$$ exist for the purpose of
>educating atheletes is a farce and a sham.  Moving up that kid at Cornell
>is just a particularly explicit example.
>
>I do think the Ivys with their fiction of no atheletic scholarships is
>particularly hypocritical in this area, but not Cornell more than others.
>
>
>Arthur Berman
>North Vancouver, BC