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I don't think any one said they hated refs.  I think that an opinion was
shared about the quality and consistency of the officiating.  

It bugs me when the flow of the game is constantly interrupted, hence
the reference to basketball.  No one made any mention that one could not
enjoy more than one sport. 

Cathy Spreeman

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Woodbury
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: officiating

Minnesota hockey every weekend on Fox Sports North, plus Denver hockey 
on Fox Sports Rocky Mountain. But please, you're happy hating refs. 
Don't let me interfere with your happiness.

Eric J. Burton wrote:

>You obviously haven't watched that much college hockey in the WCHA then
have
>you?
>
>Eric J. Burton
>(701)-610-9466
>http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bob Woodbury
>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:19 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: officiating
>
>
>First, there's nothing wrong or disloyal in liking both hockey and
>basketball...or baseball...or football...or field hockey.
>Speaking of field hockey (like the transition?), I did play-by-play on
>basketball (high school and college, kept score for Johnny Most) for
>almost 30 years and wrote up games for another 10. When I went from
>radio/TV to newspapers, I volunteered to cover field hockey, mainly
>because no one else in the sports department wanted to. I knew nothing
>about the game. I had a basketball mentality when it came to whistles.
I
>had to know what every whistle was for, and why. That will drive you
>nuts in field hockey.
>I would stand next to people who knew that game and drove them nuts.
One
>day I was standing next to a field hockey coach who, the previous
>season, had won her third consecutive high school state championship.
>About every third time I would ask her "What was that for," she'd reply
>"I don't know."
>I developed a radical philosophy. If a coach, who had just won three
>consecutive state championships, doesn't know what every third call was
>for, why should I care? I watched the game, appreciated it for it's
>beauty, appreciated the athletes talents and enjoyed the game every
time
>after that. If a call effected what happened in the game, I would ask
>the ref at halftime or after the game to explain the call. Know what.
>Didn't have to do that very often - maybe three times in 12 years.
>Conclusion - the refs have very little, if anything, to do with the
>outcome of a game. If there is, what has been termed a "blatant" call
>(English translation: one with which you, an amateur in the stands,
>disagree with a professional on the ice) then perhaps the offender(s)
>(read players) shouldn't have put themselves in that kind of position
in
>the first place.
>It's very enlightening, once you eliminate the officiating from your
>thoughts, how much more you enjoy the game for what it is - in the case
>of hockey, a really beautiful, beautiful game to watch.
>Disclaimer. I am not now, nor have I ever been, an official of any
kind.
>Unless you count umpiring sandlot baseball games 60 years ago with 20
>other guys and girls, all at the same time.
>
>Spreeman, Cathryn wrote:
>
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>
>>Gentlemen, I was at the regional games in Manchester and I thought the
>>officiating was bad.  I am offering my opinion as a long-time fan of
>>hockey, and as a hater of squeakball, and at one point during the
>>weekend I observed to my ever-patient spouse "if the officiating
>>continues like this, we may as well be watching basketball."  There
were
>>blatant calls missed and insignificant stuff whistled.  We opined at
the
>>time that it seemed the officials weren't familiar with the style of
>>play in the east.  I have no scientific data to back it up, but it
>>seemed to us that whenever a non-HE official does a game with HE
team(s)
>>involved, there are a ton of stoppages.
>>
>>Posting on Hockey-L without adding a ream of documentation?  Not a
>>capital offense.
>>
>>Cathy Spreeman
>>UNH '72 (same class as Umile, 'nuf said)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eric J. Burton
>>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:00 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: officiating
>>
>>Whatever since I read all over USCHO.COM and INCH the Officating was
>>less
>>than stellar in the Manchester Regional.
>>>From INCH:
>>The officiating in the first period - and during stages later in the
>>game -
>>was wildly inconsistent. Referee Derek Shepherd missed a couple of
>>blatant
>>calls and wound up whistling some makeup calls afterward. Shepherd is
a
>>highly-regarded official in the college hockey world. He called last
>>week's
>>WCHA Final Five championship and also reffed last year's
Maine-Michigan
>>State regional championship matchup. He also called the 2004 Frozen
Four
>>game between Maine and Boston College, when he apparently missed
another
>>call -
>>
>>So there you have it.
>>Eric J. Burton
>>(701)-610-9466
>>http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List
>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Wayne T Smith
>>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:27 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: officiating
>>
>>
>>Why should we believe or even read that here?  If we're going to smear
>>someone's reputation, can't we do it in more specific terms and if not
>>with 1st hand information, a reference that can help us evaluate the
>>opinion, please?
>>
>>See you in St. Louis
>>wayne
>>
>>Eric J. Burton wrote, in part,  on 3/30/2007 11:01 AM:
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>>>at manchester, we had 2 wcha crews, derek shepherd and todd anderson
>>>		with derek getting 2 games
>>>
>>>I have heard that Derrick Sheppard and Todd Anderson did a horrible
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>>job at
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>>>the
>>>regional they were reffing at.
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