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Would having an away game in Huntsville in February be much different than a bowl game in Shreveport, Louisiana?   One could think of it as an annual vacation to a spot warmer than Duluth, Grand Forks, Minneapolis, ....  (yes I know you mean costs, but...)



On 3/31/09 11:59 AM, "Jim Dixon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The problem with the WCHA absorbing the remaining CHA teams (Bemidji and
Alabama-Huntsville) is trying to convince Alabama Huntsville to move closer
to the midwest.  I imagine that no athletic director wants to accept the
travel to Alabama.

Jim

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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Despite what Bemidji State may want, CHA is going away.  They've tried to
> get more teams to join to get back up to the minimum six teams for two
> years
> now with no success.  Seeing the writing on the wall, Robert Morris and
> Niagara have already applied for and been accepted into Atlantic Hockey.
> Even if they were to reneg on that invitation, it is unlikely that the NCAA
> would continue to extend their autobid to a 4 team league again. The fact
> that they extended the autobid for a  second year is amazing but that was
> done to encourage the CHA recruiting effort to get back to six teams.
>
> Unless there is a complete reversal of the past, the CHA is history (or at
> least the CHA with an NCAA autobid is history)
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Rowe, Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > First, does BSU really want to move?  Look what happened here.  They won
> a
> > conference and received an automatic bid, played great for two games (I
> > sincerely hope it continues - What a story if they win it all!!), and
> have a
> > ticket to the big dance.  This is an easier route than it would be in a
> > bigger, tougher conference.  Second, as pointed out by Hambone, such a
> move
> > would decimate the fledgling CHA.
> >
> > Simple inertia would seem to dictate nothing much is going to happen, but
> > lets go left field here.  There is precedent of conferences
> > forming/reforming and teams moving around in them.   Maybe its time to
> look
> > at all the players in all the conferences and reformulate them so they
> make
> > maximal geographic sense.  I'm not entirely sure what that would be.  I'm
> > going to ponder this and post a scenario for others to laugh at sometime
> > soon.
> >
> > Tom Rowe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hambone
> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
> >
> > What happens to the two or three member CHA?  Seems the two or three
> > remaining schools would hold onto the auto-bid for dear life.  Seems a
> > revised CHA, maybe CHA CHA with DWTS sponsorship, would form the basis
> for a
> > new league to include both AK teams, UNO, CC, Den along with Notre Dame
> and
> > North Dakota.  Moving MichTech to the CCHA aka MNOH (minnow) league and
> > leaving the WCHA aka MN (Mini) league with an auto-bid.  Still some
> tweaking
> > to be done and yield more inter-conference  play during the season.  Does
> > seem better than a Big Ten conference, although it seems the Big Ten
> would
> > have lots of bucks to gain from such a move.  Seems the camel's nose is
> > under the tent.  Yet, a flick on the nose might just end all this
> > speculation as the camel trots off into a Northern MN sunset.  Seems this
> > might have as much life as a camel in MN.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Edwards <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
> >
> >
> > >NMU would be the most likely team to move over, but I seem to recall
> > >that they moved to the CCHA to get better access to the Detroit
> > >marketplace, and I'm not sure those considerations have changed any.
> > >If MTU were going to go back to the CCHA, it seems that they would have
> > >done it quickly after Northern left. From what I remember at the time,
> > >their view was that their participation in the GLI gave them sufficient
> > >recognition in the Detroit area.
> > >
> > >As for UNO, I think their window for joining the WCHA has closed. When
> > >UNO added hockey, it would have made the most sense for them to join
> > >the WCHA, because UNO was a member of the North Central Conference -
> > >along with UND, SCSU, Mankato and Duluth. Therefore, some of their
> > >hockey opponents would have been the same as their football and
> > >basketball opponents - schools UNO was used to dealing with. However,
> > >the disintegration of the NCC sent UNO into a different conference than
> > >the Minnesota schools, so that incentive is gone.
> > >
> > >John
> > >
> > >On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Eric Burton <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >> The most logical is for UAH to join the CCHA and to have UNO or NMU
> > >> join
> > the
> > >> WCHA. I have heard that
> > >> MTU really wants NMU to rejoin the WCHA. I kind of missed the
> > >> Wildcats
> > and I
> > >> also think UNO would be a very nice fit for our league.
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lewin" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:14 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> And therein lies the problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> The most logical would be for both Bemidji and Huntsville to join
> > >>> the WCHA.
> > >>> But the WCHA probably doesn't want Huntsville because of their
> > >>> location
> > or
> > >>> their perceived lack of parity with other WCHA schools.
> > >>>
> > >>> If the WCHA doesn't want Huntsville (and that is just an assumption
> > >>> on
> > my
> > >>> part), what makes you think that the CCHA would want them? What
> > >>> makes
> > you
> > >>> think that the WCHA wants Northern Michigan after they jumped ship
> > >>> once before?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bob Gilreath <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then
> > >>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical to
> > >>>> me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bob
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bob Gilreath wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then
> > >>>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical
> > >>>>> to me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bob
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> my speculation is that WCHA does not want to be an 11 team league.
> > >>>>>> That means that for Bemidji to become a member, there either must
> > >>>>>> be
> > a
> > >>>>>> 12th team (who?) or someone has to leave (again, who?)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Date:     Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:56:46 -0400
> > >>>>>>> From: Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>>>>>> Subject: is the WCHA paying attention?
> > >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So what do you think? Do you think perhaps Bemidji State is
> > >>>>>>> making its case for acceptance into the WCHA?
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >--
> > >John Edwards
> > >I used to put quotes here.
> > >
> >
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