No problem at UVM, but have you ever been to RPI - talk about a scary place
when full!  And be really careful if you are there on Big Red Freakout
Night!
 
 
 
In article <[log in to unmask]>, Laura Phelps
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
> On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Joe Davison <[log in to unmask]>said:
>
> > ...  But, comparatively speaking, UVM fans are both
> > knowledgeable and classy.   I've been to most of the rinks in the ECAC and
> > many Hockey East rinks and I can tell you that there are some real pigs
> > out there---Clarkson, Cornell, Brown, etc.  Some of the stuff that goes on
> > is officially condoned in that it is instigated by the pep bands, mascots,
> > etc.  If I had a young child I wouldn't take him/her to a game at
> > Clarkson!!!!
>
> No offense, but are you sure you've been at the same Gutterson that I have
> for a UVM game?  If I had a young child, there's no way I would take him/her
> there for fear having him/her get hit in the eye or face with a piece of
> trash (like has happened to me more than once).  You must not sit anywhere
> near to the student section.  In my experience with UVM fans (and no, I'm not
> saying all of them are like this), they have been far from classy and more
> like the "pigs" you claim Clarkson, Cornell, and Brown to be.  Granted, I
> traveled with the pep band and no home arena that I know of favors an
> "invading" band, but no other arenas' fans have ever treated us with the
> disrespect that UVM fans have.
>
> Yes, visiting fans and pep bands expect heckling and taunting, but getting
> pelted with food, paper garbage, spit wads, and gum??? I think not!  Yes,
> Clarkson and Cornell (sorry, never been to Brown) fans may use more profanity
> than necessary (boy, I never thought I'd defend the "Section O sucks"
> fans ;-) ), but at least you know that you're only at risk for verbal attacks
> and not physical ones.  In all the rinks/arenas I've been to, UVM by far has
> ranked highest on places I least like to visit.  And, believe me, I'm not
> alone.  My husband was also in the pep band and can verify my claims, along
> with any pep band member and Clarkson alumni who has ever made the trip to
> UVM.
>
> As far as pep bands and mascots condoning poor fan behavior, I can only speak
> for Clarkson.  First, the Clarkson mascot (at least the woman I knew) never
> (to my knowledge) condoned profanity or abnoxious behavior by the fans.  I'm
> not even sure if she had even ever used profane language herself.  Second, if
> you pay attention, you should notice that whenever the student section begins
> one of its more inappropriate cheers, the pep band will (almost always) start
> playing to try and drown out the cheer along with its inappropriate language.
> This may have relaxed in the last few years, but when I was there, we were
> told by the arena director that it was our job to play when the swearing
> started.
>
> So, in summary, if you can't tell by now, you've hit on a sensitive area for
> me <g>.  I repeat that I'm not trying to generalize the behavior of all UVM
> fans, just as I'm sure you weren't trying to do to Clarkson and other
> arenas (right?).  I just hope that maybe next time, you'll take a good look
> at the "pigs" in your own "barn" before you praise them and criticize others.
>
> Stepping off the soapbox now <g>,
>
> Laura Phelps
> Pep Band
> Clarkson '94
>
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