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                       GO WINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
> There are 10 messages totalling 379 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Cornell Hockey-L
>   2. Colgate Rumors
>   3. RPICH vs RPI RATING (3)
>   4. The HOCKEY-L 1992-93 Three Stars Poll! (2)
>   5. Maine Absent from Great Western Freezout??????????????
>   6. More on RPI's 93-94 Schedule (2)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 09:00:05 -0500
> From:    Tom Tseng <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Cornell Hockey-L
>
>  Cornell Hockey-L
>
> The post season Cornell Hockey/Hockey-L Happy Hour took place last Friday, at
> the Chapter House.  The usual suspects were present; they included Arthur "Goo
> Evening, Hockey Fans" Mintz, Bill "Mr. Pollster" Fenwick, Lisa "Now Engaged to
> William" Sweeney and William "Now Engaged to Lisa" Sangray, Dave "Intramural
> Hockey Nut" Delchamps, Lynne "Hockey-L Imposter" Raymond, and a new face, Davi
>  "Mr. Pep Band" (and I'm sorry I did not write down your last name), and yours
> truly.
>
> The conversation covered the potential recruits, the disappointing year, to
> Arthur's reminiscence of the 1971 national championship season and the good ol
> days (making most of us jealous).  Then he took out the Cornell hockey stats
> book that he compiled, and the discussion got even more hot and heavy (and
> technical).  All in all, a good time was had by all.
>
> Thanks Bill for bring me a RED 1993 Hockey-L NC$$ Phinal Phour button (Carol,
> good job as always; I'm starting a collection like I have for the little leagu
> baseball souvenir pins).
>
> Tom Y. Tseng
> Cornell '87
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 11:47:38 -0400
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Colgate Rumors
>
> Greg wrote:
>
> >Subj:  Colgate's got troubles.
>
> >Spring Rumor Mill:
>
> >Not only has Colgate graduated several important players, but
> >two of its most important juniors, Brent Wilde and Marcel
> >Richard, are rumored to have used up their eligiblity in some way
> >(I assume they're over-age, but I don't have the numbers in front
> >of me).
>
>         I confirmed this rumor with the Asst. Coach this morning, what he told
> me is this:  Clayton Fahey and Marcel Richard have used up their eligibility
> because of their age.  They are the only two.
>
>         Also, they have recruited 4 forwards and 2 defensemen that look very
> promising.  Asst. Coach was told some good things about our recruits at the
> convention in Florida,  that made him feel very good about their decisions.
>
>         He is also sending me a tentative schedule for the 93/94 season, no
> times, just dates and where.  He feels this will be a building year for us but
> a good year. As soon as I receive the schedule I will post to the list.
>
>         BTW, I agree with all the comments, Mike and Wayne are to be commended
> on their hard work re: the list.  This was my first full year with Hockey-L an
> I have enjoyed every minute of it and am looking forward to another year.
>         Also, great job on the pins Carol, I can't wait to start my collection
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Donna L. Merlino^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       GO GATE!!               DEDICATED "Red Raider" FAN       GO GATE!!
> Bitnet: dmerlino@colgateu                                 Colgate University
> Internet: [log in to unmask]                     13 Oak Drive
> Phone: (315)824-7304                                      Hamilton, NY 13346
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 11:43:30 -0500
> From:    "Brian Cavanaugh @ Koessler Athletics" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RPICH vs RPI RATING
>
> Erik Beaver informs me that the RPICH rating that he sends out
> and the RPI rating that the NC$$ selection committee use to determine
> a ranking for playoff selection are vertually the same. OK - that's
> what I was waiting to hear.  WHY ????
>
> When I was at the meetings this past week the NC$$ committee told
> the D-I coaches that they could (or would not) send out the
> RPI ratings that they use as the season comes to a close.  I sat
> there almost in disbelief - knowing that I followed the ratings
> thru hockey-l all year long (presuming that they may be close
> in statistical accuracy).
>
> Some of the coaches asked if the NC$$ would give out these
> ratings toward the time of selection - and the committee -
> hedged quite a bit and then the NC$$ rep said that did'nt
> seem likely.
>
> It seems that some coaches really don't know who's rated where
> as season ends - MAYBE THEY SHOULD GET ON HOCKEY-L.  The RPI
> index has a lot of bearing on the selection and if its "to
> close to call" the committee uses several other tiebreakers
> to determine both selection and seeding.  It's these
> "tiebreakers" (head to head, last 20 games, playoff results,
> etc.) and there importance and priority that took up a lot
> of discussion time.
>
> The RPI index is of utmost importance and Eric asked me if he
> should send it out to the leagues as the season progresses.
> It suprises me that the league commissioners and the leagues
> don't already do it.  It also astounds me that a league
> representative does'nt tap it to this hockey - l on a
> regular basis.  A lot of great info is passed along -
> I think "you all" are ahead of some of the boys !!!  In
> fact I mentioned this network to several coaches on the
> "Q. T. " (such as George G from Miami University) and
> they are not only interested but looking forward to getting
> on board.  I think you may see more general and open
> discussion regarding it as now that Shawn is President.
>
> Brian Cavanaugh
> Canisius College
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:29:21 CDT
> From:    Erik Biever <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: RPICH vs RPI RATING
>
> Brian Cavanaugh write:
>
> >Erik Beaver informs me that the RPICH rating that he sends out
> >and the RPI rating that the NC$$ selection committee use to determine
> >a ranking for playoff selection are vertually the same. OK - that's
> >what I was waiting to hear.  WHY ????
> >
> >When I was at the meetings this past week the NC$$ committee told
> >the D-I coaches that they could (or would not) send out the
> >RPI ratings that they use as the season comes to a close.  I sat
> >there almost in disbelief - knowing that I followed the ratings
> >thru hockey-l all year long (presuming that they may be close
> >in statistical accuracy).
> >
> >Some of the coaches asked if the NC$$ would give out these
> >ratings toward the time of selection - and the committee -
> >hedged quite a bit and then the NC$$ rep said that did'nt
> >seem likely.
>
> Yup.  That's why I decided to generate my own numbers.  The formula isn't a
> secret.  I wrote a computer program to crank out the numbers, but a person
> could do it with a calculator given the time and inclination.
>
> >It seems that some coaches really don't know who's rated where
> >as season ends - MAYBE THEY SHOULD GET ON HOCKEY-L.  The RPI
> >index has a lot of bearing on the selection and if its "to
> >close to call" the committee uses several other tiebreakers
> >to determine both selection and seeding.  It's these
> >"tiebreakers" (head to head, last 20 games, playoff results,
> >etc.) and there importance and priority that took up a lot
> >of discussion time.
>
> Yes, indeed.  I offer the weekly RPICH numbers to the college hockey
> community in hope that understanding of the seeding and selection
> process will be increased.  I certainly hope that coaches, administrators,
> and fans find the numbers useful.
>
> -- Erik
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Erik Biever                                                     Ski-U-Mah!
> [log in to unmask] / [log in to unmask] / [log in to unmask]
> ********  MINNESOTA GOLDEN GOPHERS - 1993 WCHA PLAYOFF CHAMPIONS  ********
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:01:59 EDT
> From:    Brian Morris <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RPICH vs RPI RATING
>
> >The RPI index is of utmost importance and Eric asked me if he
> >should send it out to the leagues as the season progresses.
> >It surprises me that the league commissioners and the leagues
> >don't already do it.  It also astounds me that a league
> >representative doesn't tap it to this hockey - l on a
> >regular basis.  A lot of great info is passed along -
> >I think "you all" are ahead of some of the boys !!!  In
> >fact I mentioned this network to several coaches on the
> >Q. T. " (such as George G from Miami University) and
> >they are not only interested but looking forward to getting
> >on board.  I think you may see more general and open
> >discussion regarding it as now that Shawn is President.
>
> It's working!  First you get the coaches on-line and subtly re-direct their
> thinking.  Once we're a united front we make our move--liberate college hockey
> from the NC$$! :-C  Imagine attending the Hockey-L National Men's Ice Hockey
> Championships!  Our initial president would be none other than Wayne Smith wit
> Mike Machnik serving as Director of the Competition and Rules Committee.
> Imagine, going head to head with affluent and influential college presidents;
> negotiating a network TV contract; :-? presiding over the expansion of the
> tournament to 64 teams; starting direct marketing of GENUINE Hockey-L Ceramic
> Dalmatian gear....Oh well, what else is there to dream about on a dreary April
> afternoon?
>                     _
>             "NYS   // Hockey"
>         Go 'Gate  //   Brian Morris
>           Go RPI //      Albany, NY
>           ______// [log in to unmask]
>          (______/
> ******************************************************************************
> Islanders vs. Penguins for Patrick Division Finals. And they don't even need O
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 18:45:39 -0400
> From:    Jeremy D Hall <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: The HOCKEY-L 1992-93 Three Stars Poll!
>
> As if we haven't had enough polls yet...
>
> A couple of days ago, Robert Hoffman mentioned that Wayne & Mike were the
> stars of HOCKEY-L.  I sent mail back to him saying that maybe we should
> have a HOCKEY-L Three Stars poll.  He thought it was a good idea, and now I
> present to you:
>
>                 THE 1992-93 HOCKEY-L THREE STARS POLL
>
> Just send your picks for the three most important contributors/behind-the-
> scenes people on HOCKEY-L over the past season and send it to me at:
>
>                            [log in to unmask]
>
> by NOON, TUESDAY MAY 4 (EDT).  I'll post the three stars sometime later in
> the week.  Please be sure to rank your picks (1st star gets three votes, the
> usual system).
>
>
>
>  *****************************************************************************
>  *       Jeremy Hall          [log in to unmask]          Penn State Univ.     *
>  *                                                                           *
>  *                CLARKSON GOLDEN KNIGHTS: *1993* ECAC CHAMPIONS             *
>  *                                                                           *
>  *                            PENN STATE ICERS:                              *
>  *         1992-93 ATLANTIC LEAGUE REGULAR SEASON & TOURNAMENT CHAMPS        *
>  *                                                                           *
>  *     LET'S GO TECH!!!!                                LET'S GO ICERS!!     *
>  *****************************************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 29 Apr 1993 00:22:39 GMT
> From:    Jayson Moy <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Maine Absent from Great Western Freezout??????????????
>
> According to Kelly Vergin, Media Relations Specialist here at RPI,
> RPI will be playing in the Dexter Thanksgiving weekend.
>
> Maine vs. UIC
> RPI vs. Bowling Green
>
> ******************************************************************************
> *  Jayson Moy                   *  One of the Voices of Rensselaer Engineer  *
> *  [log in to unmask]                 *  Hockey on 91.5FM WRPI, Troy               *
> *                               *  And Rensselaer Baseball now too!!!        *
> ******************************************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 29 Apr 1993 00:36:49 GMT
> From:    Jayson Moy <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: More on RPI's 93-94 Schedule
>
> An update with dates for you on the schedule:
>
> Nov  5          Merrimack
> Nov  6      @   Army
> Nov 13      @   Boston University
> Nov 16          New Hampshire
> Nov 19      @   Clarkson
> Nov 20      @   St. Lawrence
> Nov 26-27   @   Dexter Classic
>                 (Maine, RPI, UIC, Bowling Green)
> Dec  4          Harvard
> Dec  5          Brown
> Dec 11          Princeton or Yale
> Dec 28-29       RPI Invitational
>                 (RPI, ?,?,?)
> Jan  8          Cornell
> Jan  9          Colgate
> Jan 15          Union
> Jan 16      @   Union
>
> Feb 19      @   Harvard
> Feb 20      @   Brown
>
> More details to come..............
>
> ******************************************************************************
> *  Jayson Moy                   *  One of the Voices of Rensselaer Engineer  *
> *  [log in to unmask]                 *  Hockey on 91.5FM WRPI, Troy               *
> *                               *  And Rensselaer Baseball now too!!!        *
> ******************************************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 23:11:53 EDT
> From:    Mike Machnik <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: More on RPI's 93-94 Schedule
>
> Jayson writes:
> >An update with dates for you on the schedule:
> >
> >Nov  5          Merrimack
> ...
> >Nov 13      @   Boston University
>
> I think you need to push the early season NC games back a week...according
> to the Merrimack and BU scheds, these dates are off a week.  We have
> Merrimack at RPI 10/29; Merrimack hosts Colgate and Dartmouth the weekend
> of 11/5-6.  The HE campaign will be in full swing on 11/12-13, as BU will be
> playing a home and home with Northeastern, and Sid had RPI at BU on 11/6.
> Nice to see that Merrimack will be RPI's home opener. :-)
> ---
> Mike Machnik    [log in to unmask]   Color Voice of the Merrimack Warriors
> alternate address days: [log in to unmask]             *HMN*  11/13/93
> (Any opinions expressed above are strictly those of the poster.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 28 Apr 1993 23:40:43 EDT
> From:    Mike Machnik <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The HOCKEY-L 1992-93 Three Stars Poll!
>
> Jeremy writes:
> >                THE 1992-93 HOCKEY-L THREE STARS POLL
> >
> >Just send your picks for the three most important contributors/behind-the-
> >scenes people on HOCKEY-L over the past season and send it to me at:
>
> Please allow me to register my opposition to such a poll...my intent (and
> Wayne's too, I am sure) was never for this thing to become a popularity
> contest.  I fear that by conducting such a poll and releasing the results,
> it will be inevitable that many will be overlooked, and it shouldn't be
> that way.  My personal opinion is that all of the contributions made by
> people here are extremely important, and together they all make up what has
> become a successful HOCKEY-L.  I don't think it's fair to draw attention to
> some at the risk of slighting others.
>
> BTW, while I have admittedly been honored by some of the flattering
> comments made by folks here recently, I do also feel quite reluctant to
> accept as much of the credit as I know Wayne does.  If, for example,
> HOCKEY-L consisted only of Wayne and myself, it wouldn't be anything at
> all.  I specifically avoided mentioning other people in the message I sent
> a few days ago because I knew I could not include everyone.  IMO, if you
> want to see a list of the people who have helped make HOCKEY-L what it is,
> send mail to LISTSERV and fetch the listing of everyone signed up.
>
> I should add that it is nice to receive mail from people who have comments
> or questions on the things I post...it shows me that there is interest
> and that some of you wade through it all. :-)  But please, do not try to
> quantify the contributions made here by producing a top 3 vote - HOCKEY-L
> is made successful by the sum of its parts and no less, and I guess I think
> it is important that we remember that.
>
> Finally, note that Coach Cavanaugh said that HOCKEY-L was mentioned by some
> at the coaches' convention (while waiting to tee off, I suppose :-)) and
> that many coaches are aware of it, some are already on it and others are
> chomping at the bit to find out more.  That is only true because what we
> are doing here collectively has been deemed to be useful and interesting by
> people both inside and outside the sport.  I think it is a positive
> reflection on everyone here, and I would only encourage people to do
> nothing more than: keep up the good work!
>
> (The same goes for those of you on the DivIII list, hockey3, and the newest
> addition to the college hockey electronic mailing list family, olympuck -
> since both lists grew out of a number of discussions on HOCKEY-L.)
> ---
> Mike Machnik    [log in to unmask]   Color Voice of the Merrimack Warriors
> alternate address days: [log in to unmask]             *HMN*  11/13/93
> (Any opinions expressed above are strictly those of the poster.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
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