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Since some people continue to insist that Quinnipiac will (or should)
get an at-large bid based on their RPI and PWR, I decided to modify my
pairwise comparison script to calculate the RPI, record vs teams under
consideration and record in the last 16 games with games between MAAC
teams omitted.
 
Here are the the results for the six MAAC teams, with each team's
rank and ratings by the normal procedure in the first row and the
modified one in the second.  (RPI already leaves out games involving a
team from its opponents' opponents' winning percentage; I just
modified this to also leave out games vs other MAAC teams when both
teams in question were from the MAAC.  Record in the last 16 games I
just replaced with total non-conference record, which is less than 16
games in each case.)
 
    Team            RPI    PF-PA    PCT    OPPCT   OPOPP   vsTUC   Last16
 9 Quinnipiac      0.554   36-10   0.783   0.427   0.446   0.625   0.750
41 Quinnipiac      0.422   36-10   0.783   0.203   0.315    N/A    0.667
 
18 Connecticut     0.521   30-16   0.652   0.451   0.447   0.300   0.625
44 Connecticut     0.413   30-16   0.652   0.276   0.307   0.000   0.333
 
27 Holy Cross      0.493   28-20   0.583   0.444   0.443   0.444   0.562
46 Holy Cross      0.403   28-20   0.583   0.306   0.303   0.000   0.125
 
42 Canisius        0.440   18-28   0.391   0.474   0.443   0.200   0.531
48 Canisius        0.356   18-28   0.391   0.350   0.295   0.000   0.000
 
47 Iona            0.419   18-26   0.409   0.417   0.445   0.125   0.375
50 Iona            0.294   18-26   0.409   0.212   0.300    N/A    0.500
 
51 Fairfield       0.284    0-44   0.000   0.437   0.441   0.000   0.000
51 Fairfield       0.204    0-44   0.000   0.325   0.274    N/A    0.000
 
All six D1 MAAC teams take a big hit in opponents' opponents' winning
percentage, and a corresponding drop in RPI.  Note that even with this
modified RPI, Quinnipiac only drops one place in the pairwise
rankings, and that is due to the loss of pairwise comparisons with
Princeton and Mankato, who are much lower ranked.  However, if we
exclude MAAC teams from Q's record vs TUC and in the last 16, their
pairwise comparisons go in the toilet, and the only non-MAAC team with
which they win a comparison is Niagara.  (UConn and Holy Cross win
*no* comparisons out of conference in that case.)
 
Just to make sure I wasn't tapping into some other effect which had
nothing to do with the MAAC's closed schedule, I tried the same thing
using the ECAC instead of the MAAC, and found the following:
 
    Team            RPI    PF-PA    PCT    OPPCT   OPOPP   vsTUC   Last16
 6 Clarkson        0.583   43-21   0.672   0.545   0.498   0.447   0.875
 5 Clarkson        0.601   43-21   0.672   0.577   0.516   0.278   0.350
 
10 St Lawrence     0.550   43-25   0.632   0.507   0.502   0.500   0.688
 8 St Lawrence     0.567   43-25   0.632   0.536   0.519   0.167   0.364
 
14 RPI             0.533   42-22   0.656   0.458   0.498   0.346   0.656
12 RPI             0.547   42-22   0.656   0.479   0.517   0.000   0.667
 
15 Princeton       0.533   37-21   0.638   0.468   0.501   0.636   0.500
13 Princeton       0.544   37-21   0.638   0.485   0.521   1.000   0.714
 
17 Colgate         0.521   38-26   0.594   0.479   0.495   0.393   0.531
16 Colgate         0.530   38-26   0.594   0.489   0.515   0.333   0.625
 
24 Yale            0.503   30-28   0.517   0.495   0.495   0.179   0.625
18 Yale            0.526   30-28   0.517   0.536   0.513   0.000   0.286
 
29 Cornell         0.488   27-31   0.466   0.503   0.493   0.265   0.344
24 Cornell         0.505   27-31   0.466   0.531   0.513   0.250   0.500
 
30 Vermont         0.485   28-34   0.452   0.503   0.501   0.344   0.281
25 Vermont         0.503   28-34   0.452   0.535   0.520   0.500   0.625
 
31 Harvard         0.480   24-30   0.444   0.499   0.501   0.214   0.594
29 Harvard         0.494   24-30   0.444   0.520   0.523   0.500   0.600
 
36 Brown           0.466   24-34   0.414   0.494   0.495   0.265   0.500
33 Brown           0.478   24-34   0.414   0.512   0.515   0.600   0.643
 
40 Dartmouth       0.455   20-34   0.370   0.504   0.493   0.300   0.375
35 Dartmouth       0.469   20-34   0.370   0.524   0.516   0.667   0.750
 
49 Union           0.364    9-55   0.141   0.483   0.492   0.147   0.094
49 Union           0.387    9-55   0.141   0.522   0.509   0.375   0.278
 
All of the ECAC teams actually *improve* their RPI if ECAC vs ECAC
games are left out of opponents' opponents' winning percentage.  (Not
sure why this is.)  Their records vs TUC and in the last 16 vary a lot
in both directions, as one would expect from a smaller sample size.
The effect on pairwise comparisons is to drop Clarkson and SLU a lot
and boost Princeton a lot and RPI and Colgate a little, with the net
result that three ECAC teams instead of two end up in the top twelve:
 
    Team         PWR  RPI                  Comparisons Won
 5 Clarkson       21 .583 ________  CCDUQnBCSLMiOSNtNMRPPnCgCtMkPvNiMLFSYaBGHC
11 Clarkson       13 .601 __________CC____Pn__  RP__OSNMCgPv__SLMLNi__Mk__YaHC
 
10 St Lawrence    16 .550 __________________  MiOSNtNMRPPnCgCtMkPvNiMLFSYaBGHC
19 St Lawrence     7 .567 ________________Pn____RP__OS__Cg____  ______MkFSYa__
 
15 RPI            12 .533 ______________________OS____  PnCgCtMkPvNiMLFSYaBGHC
12 RPI            13 .547 ________________Pn____  NtOSNMCgPvCt____NiBGMkFSYaHC
 
16 Princeton      11 .533 ______________________OS______  CgCtMkPvNiMLFSYaBGHC
 9 Princeton      15 .544 __________CC____  Mi____NtOSNMCgPvCt__MLNiBGMkFSYaHC
 
17 Colgate         8 .521 ________________________________  CtMkPv__MLFSYaBGHC
16 Colgate        10 .530 __________________________OS__  PvCt__MLNiBGMkFSYaHC
 
24 Yale            3 .503 ________________________________________Ni____  BGHC
25 Yale            3 .526 ________________________________________Ni__Mk__  HC
 
(the comparisons flipped are a little harder to make out because the
script orders the opponents based on their PWR, which is different in
the two cases)
 
This is not to say that games among ECAC teams should be excluded, of
course.  The ECAC's non-conference schedule provides enough of a
baseline for the additional information about games between ECAC teams
to be meaningful.  The MAAC, on the other hand, provides the committee
with very little independent information about how to judge MAAC
*intra*conference games, and removing the effects of those games
within the conference makes the high overall ratings of Quinnipiac and
the other MAAC leaders crumble into dust.  The committee noted in the
NCAA News last summer "that it reserves the right to evaluate each
team based on the relative strength of their respective conference"
for just this reason, and I see no sensible reason why they will not
use this language to exclude Quinnipiac on this basis.  (For a
discussion of how the criteria might be modified to make this sort of
ad hoc exclusion unneccessary, see the my next post.)
 
                                          John Whelan, Cornell '91
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