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Seems this is a time for solidarity and change the names for other schools
to the fighting wolverines, beavers, bulldogs, broncos, falcons.....  Or
maybe change the OSU Buckeyes to the Horse Chestnuts.the Wolverines to the
Skunk Bears and the Big Red to the Large sized Red.........Something to
press the absurdity of it all.  How about seeing if the two Sioux tribes are
OK with the Conflict Resolving Sioux.   Let's hope for a Fighting Sioux -
Fighting Irish final two teams in Detroit next year - that would seem to
help bring the issue to the foreground in a dramatic way.  Seems obvious
that it has to be about money if the NCAA is involved not political
correctness or ethics.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Burton <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: North Dakota


>> Watching RabbitEarTV and seeing Toews, former "Fighting Sioux", wearing a
>> Blackhawks sweater leads me to wonder if the name was changed to the
>> "Sioux"
>> would it be more acceptable to the NCAA.
>Nope! It will not be acceptable to the NCAA. Don't expect it to happen
>unless there is a 30 year agreement with the two Tribless (Spirit Lake and
>Standing Rock Sioux).
>
>
> They did allow the Seminoles but
>> would they have allowed the "Fighting Seminoles".  And a time when the
>> President of the USA is speaking to the "Fighting Irish", there seems to
>> me
>> there is more to the problem than what comes to the surface.  With so
many
>> professional teams with "politically incorrect" mascots, names...., it
>> seems
>> that this is more of an NCAA problem of unwarranted power and it is
viewed
>> as silly because that is a way to distract attention and avoid the deeper
>> more substantive issue.  I believe it is all about money and the NCAA's
>> not
>> wanting to be sued and lose the rights to their trademarks...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rowe, Thomas <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:09 PM
>> Subject: North Dakota
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I am not Native American so perhaps I am not one criticize.  Yet, I
cannot
>> help but feel the use of "Fighting Sioux" should not be offensive.  It
>> does
>> not demean the tribe or people - sports teams are supposed to be
>> "fighters"
>> and the logo, unlike Chief Wahoo of the Cleveland Indians, seems
>> respectful
>> enough to me.  I just can't get my head around this one.  I was rooting
>> for
>> ND to hold out on this one.  I still think they could win a court battle
>> against the NCAA if sanctions were imposed.
>>>
>>>Still, if a change must be made, how about the "Fighting Sue" with a logo
>> of a woman?  Or maybe to appease them, make it the "Fantastically
>> Intelligent Great Hair Trying Important New Genres Sioux" with the logo
of
>> a
>> featherless, generic long haired male head.
>>>
>>>Please don't flame me for the stupid paragraph above.  Its merely a
>> reflection of how stupid I think the whole thing is in the first place.
>>>
>>>Tom Rowe
>>>Stevens Point, WI
>>>
>>

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