Bob,
    Damn you, now you have made me curious. I'm getting too old for this
nonsense. Fucking beaneries and there resulting intestinal gas! So it is
"petrifying ideologies" ( and boy, we got em) that we are really talking
about?

Charlie

"...and the demand that everyone swallow it." -KULCHUR p.53

> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
> 
> Well, Pound assuredly read in and of the medieval Islamic
> thinkers--specifically Avicenna and Averroes. Cavalcanti was also an avowed
> Averroist, and Pound's study of him assuredly brought Pound further within the
> pale of medieval Islamic thought.  Ernst Renan and Etienne Gilson--both of
> whom Pound read and with whom he corresponded wrote about Islamic thought, and
> Renan wrote a lengthy thesis/dissertation and book on Averroism that is in the
> Pound collection in Austin (I need to get down there to see Pound's habitual
> underlinings in blue pencil. Stuff in the Beinecke too.).
> More specifically, the Averroist translation of and interpretation of
> Aristotle's "De Anima" corresponds in a general way to how Pound's combinant
> metaphysics and aesthetics operate--as a process, a forma mentis, a
> Ling--moving in and out of discernible form and reality, and likewise, in and
> out of the mind of both God and artist, thereby changing the character of
> created art, perceived reality, and the overall quality of mind possessed by
> both.  As seen in the Cantos.
> That would be the general drift of it, at 7:30 in the morning. And Pound's son
> Omar wrote a book of translated Islamic poetry. Don't know if there is any
> link, but maybe. 
> 
>  
> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>  
> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
> English and Humanities
> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
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> 500 University Avenue West
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:59 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
> 
> Would you care to share any of your depth in this topic with those of us
> still semiconscious on this list who will have no opportunity to attend the
> conference and would not find it profitable to do so?
> 
> Charles
> 
> "Without stirring abroad
> One can know the whole world;
> Without looking out of the window
> One can see the way of heaven."
> TAO TE CHING (and this was said before Fox News)
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:52:55 -0600
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>> 
>> I am certainly out here, and would love to participate in a panel concerning
>> Pound and Islam. I am deep in this topic now. If there are others so
>> interested, I would hope we could make a panel of the topic. Thanks Burt.
>> Robert
>> 
>>  
>> The person of excellence understands what is moral.
>> The petty person understands what is profitable.
>>                    "Analects" IV.16, Confucius
>>  
>> Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D.
>> English and Humanities
>> Director, Northern Plains Writing Project
>> 229 Hartnett Hall West
>> Minot State University
>> 500 University Avenue West
>> Minot, North Dakota 58701
>> telephone: 701 858 3876
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> fax: 701 858 3894
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burt Hatlen
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:12 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Pound panel(s) at the ALA?
>> 
>> I was unable to attend the MLA this year, but I understand from Alec Marsh
>> that that there was some discussion of possible Pound Society panels at the
>> ALA conference in San Francisco, May25-28. For the past two years, Tim Redman
>> has taken
>> responsibility for panels at the ALA, but Alec reports that this year Tim
>> will
>> be in Europe at the tim e of the conference. It is my understanding the
>> Robert
>> Kibler raised the possibility of a panel on Pound and Islam. Robert, are you
>> out there?  Is
>> this information correct?  If so, is anyone else on this list interested in
>> such a panel? I would be interested in putting together a panel on Pound and
>> the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance.  If you think that you might like
>> to join such a
>> panel, please send me a message to that effect ASAP. The deadline for program
>> listings is January 30.
>> 
>> Burt Hatlen