Daniel Pearlman writes:
Gentlemen,
> moral issues take a back seat here.  We are witnessing a life and death
> struggle for the survival of the Western way of life against an absolutely
> relentless militant Islam ...

Dan Pearlman is right.  Saddam/WOMD' s are just a convenient bogey for the
pavlovian masses.  The elite think tank'rs (Richard Perle's group) see a
malthusian oil supply situation in the next 25 yrs with no possibility of
averting it with new tech.  Central asia and the middle east are the
strategic real estate and long before 9/11 the bush team had determined upon
the need to create a new world order that would see the re-colonization of
that area.  So the question you have to answer is, Are you willing to pay
for your good conscience with turning out the light of Western History?
...are you will to accept it is our turn to be the fellaheen civ?



----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: laureates against the war


> I have read the article and find it partly informative, partly
speculative.
> There's a lot more to all this than meets the eye--an incredible 3D
> geopolitical chess game.  If it's largely a matter of controlling (much
of)
> the world's oil, as I think it is, then I think the administration's fear
of
> oil's falling under the control of Al Qaeda is the driving force for war.
I
> believe that Bush & Co. do see very clearly the inevitable fall of all
> those fat-assed Arab monarchies, maybe in the next decade or so,
> as they cave in to the militant Islam in their midst--and that will mean,
> of course, Al Qaeda's economic stranglehold over the U.S. and the
> rest of the Western world.  Israel or no Israel, Al Qaeda's declared
> purpose is the minimization of Western cultural influence, and there'd
> be no better way than holding oil as economic trump card.  Gentlemen,
> moral issues take a back seat here.  We are witnessing a life and death
> struggle for the survival of the Western way of life against an absolutely
> relentless militant Islam that is well-"oiled" with the economic means
> to do us great damage.
>
> I think that in 30 to 50 years, when all our vehicles run on hydrogen,
we'll
> have abandoned the Middle East, which will revert almost wholly to desert.
> But  worry about the period of transition from now to 2030.
>
> ==Dan
>
> At 10:03 PM 02/11/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Daniel Pearlman wrote:
> > >
> > > In other words, a N. Korea or an Iraq wielding nukes is a defender of
> > humanity?
> > > Very interesting.  I enjoy your logic.
> > > ==Dan
> >
> >North Korea is _not_ going to use those nukes (if it even has them)
> >unless it is attacked. Don't you read: no nation but the u.s. (and
> >perhaps Israel) _dare_ use nukes for offensive purposes.
> >
> >And Iraq of course has none. If it did, the U.S. wouldn't be going to
> >war.
> >
> >Think a little about what using nuclear weapons would mean for a small
> >nation.
> >
> >Carrol
> >
> >P.S. And do read the Counterpunch article Charles refers to.
>
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