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>From: Jack Savage <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
>Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2002, 8:12 AM
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>>From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
>>    <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
>>Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:22:37 -0800
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>>Perhaps I am being naive myself, but I thought it more often the practice
>>of
>>reappraising  uncertainty after a solid course in the divine.
>>     I'd like a second opinion on the site. BTW Ez's quotes are in there
>>and
>>Hitler's too.
>>
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>> >From: Jesse Huisken <[log in to unmask]>
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
>> >Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 2:10 PM
>> >
>>
>> > I would absolutely love to drop this subject, but incase there was some
>> > misunderstanding I would not like to advance a pogrom against believers.
>> > My email  suggested that we question our own beliefs, and engage with
>> > some sort of intellectual restlessness. It was this sense of experiment
>> > that allowed Pound to broaden the rang of spiritual figures with which
>> > to populate the Cantos. One can return reapraise the divine after one
>> > has taken a solid course in uncertainty. The web site below seemed to me
>> > to be nothing if not naive.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 06:07 PM, charles moyer wrote:
>> >
>> >> James, Dan and all,
>> >>     I think you may want to reassess your opinion of atheists if you
>> >> take
>> >> some time to examine this site:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.positiveatheism.org/index.shtml
>> >>
>> >> But see if you can find among these atheists any who would wish to
>> >> support
>> >> a pogrom against the "believers", an argument no doubt but more often
>> >> than
>> >> not a defensive one. But I think you may be surprised to see in whose
>> >> company you will find yourself.
>> >>     And Dan, I think Hitler was a Roman Catholic, granted not a very
>> >> good
>> >> one, but it was the Catholic party's vote which put him and the Nazis
>>in
>> >> power in the Reichstag in 1933.
>> >>     How much rarer and precious does it make that 1%?
>> >>
>> >> Charles
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >>> From: Stoner James <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted.
>> >>> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:29 AM
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>> Dan:
>> >>>
>> >>> You said:  Doesn't it frighten you that about 99% of this planet's
>> >>> denizens are (generally) mindless adherents of one formal religious
>> >>> sect
>> >>> or another?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not certain why such a thing should frighten me (us.)  As an
>> >>> atheist, you are also closed off to the possibility of a theistic
>> >>> alternative.  As an agnostic, it is both closed mindedness and
>> >>> intolerance that I most fear.  Atheist, Muslim, Jew, Christian -- its
>> >>> those among them that are closed minded and intolerant (more
>> >>> appropriately referred to as fundamentalist) that scare me.  They
>>scare
>> >>> me because they want to make everyone else like them.  The long for
>>the
>> >>> nostalgic notion of their own grand narrative being imposed and
>>coerced
>> >>> upon others.  Thank God (oops) the atheists haven't organized, but
>> >>> there are the fundamentalists among them; they would annialate theists
>> >>> if they had the chance.
>> >>>
>> >>> Most of us ARE mindless adherents to something or another.  Because we
>> >>> use language, and it is taken so much for granted, it makes it
>> >>> necessarily so.
>> >>>
>> >>> $.02
>> >>>
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>
>
> "a solid course in the divine" ... ????

See, it already leads to uncertainty, but "a solid course in
uncertainty"...??? What could that lead to other than a divinity or the
continuing search?
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