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>From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
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>Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
>Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:22:37 -0800
>
>Perhaps I am being naive myself, but I thought it more often the practice
>of
>reappraising  uncertainty after a solid course in the divine.
>     I'd like a second opinion on the site. BTW Ez's quotes are in there
>and
>Hitler's too.
>
>----------
> >From: Jesse Huisken <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted?
> >Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 2:10 PM
> >
>
> > I would absolutely love to drop this subject, but incase there was some
> > misunderstanding I would not like to advance a pogrom against believers.
> > My email  suggested that we question our own beliefs, and engage with
> > some sort of intellectual restlessness. It was this sense of experiment
> > that allowed Pound to broaden the rang of spiritual figures with which
> > to populate the Cantos. One can return reapraise the divine after one
> > has taken a solid course in uncertainty. The web site below seemed to me
> > to be nothing if not naive.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 06:07 PM, charles moyer wrote:
> >
> >> James, Dan and all,
> >>     I think you may want to reassess your opinion of atheists if you
> >> take
> >> some time to examine this site:
> >>
> >> http://www.positiveatheism.org/index.shtml
> >>
> >> But see if you can find among these atheists any who would wish to
> >> support
> >> a pogrom against the "believers", an argument no doubt but more often
> >> than
> >> not a defensive one. But I think you may be surprised to see in whose
> >> company you will find yourself.
> >>     And Dan, I think Hitler was a Roman Catholic, granted not a very
> >> good
> >> one, but it was the Catholic party's vote which put him and the Nazis
>in
> >> power in the Reichstag in 1933.
> >>     How much rarer and precious does it make that 1%?
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >> ----------
> >>> From: Stoner James <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted.
> >>> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:29 AM
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Dan:
> >>>
> >>> You said:  Doesn't it frighten you that about 99% of this planet's
> >>> denizens are (generally) mindless adherents of one formal religious
> >>> sect
> >>> or another?
> >>>
> >>> I'm not certain why such a thing should frighten me (us.)  As an
> >>> atheist, you are also closed off to the possibility of a theistic
> >>> alternative.  As an agnostic, it is both closed mindedness and
> >>> intolerance that I most fear.  Atheist, Muslim, Jew, Christian -- its
> >>> those among them that are closed minded and intolerant (more
> >>> appropriately referred to as fundamentalist) that scare me.  They
>scare
> >>> me because they want to make everyone else like them.  The long for
>the
> >>> nostalgic notion of their own grand narrative being imposed and
>coerced
> >>> upon others.  Thank God (oops) the atheists haven't organized, but
> >>> there are the fundamentalists among them; they would annialate theists
> >>> if they had the chance.
> >>>
> >>> Most of us ARE mindless adherents to something or another.  Because we
> >>> use language, and it is taken so much for granted, it makes it
> >>> necessarily so.
> >>>
> >>> $.02
> >>>
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"a solid course in the divine" ... ????

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