I agree. This is the kind of thing that I like to see!!
-Deron
--- Bob Woodbury <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The following is the last line from a Larry Mahoney article in
> today's
> Bangor Daily News, one specifically about the Whitehead/Walsh
> discussion. I would only add "AMEN."
>
> "Our work isn't done," said Whitehead. "We're not going out there
> just
> to enjoy the weekend. We're competing for a national championship."
>
>
>
> james acheson wrote:
>
> > gosh the D sure picked it up this past weekend though, let's hope
> it
> > carries over into Thursday and Saturday!!!
> >
> > we can all be as happy as a muddy mosey
> >
> > Anthony DelMonaco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > i agree with this, the team was so sloppy on defense 99% of the
> > year that if there were defense being played i would have been
> > happier than a pig in mud
> >
> > mosey
> >
> > If you don't have the best of everything, make the best of
> > everything you have
> > -Shawn Walsh
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Bob Woodbury <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:31:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >
> > This is an interesting post to me because, while the offense on
> > this years team might be bolstered a little (it's great a man
> up),
> > the most glaring weakness is defense, plus a sophomore
> goaltender.
> > There is talent on defense, but it is at best inconsistent and
> > responsible for the up-and-down performances of the team. Don't
> > think that has anything to do with coaching.
> >
> > Steve Archer wrote:
> >
> >> I almost never post here but usually read everything. Having
> >> watched nearly every home game of the Walsh era up to 95 when
> I
> >> left to college, I think I know why a lot of people are down
> on
> >> whitehead. People rather watch offensive teams over
> defensive.
> >> I don't think it's so much Tim as the game in general changing
> in
> >> the late 90 from offensive to defensive minded. Shawn's teams
> >> were more geared around offense and scored more goals than
> Tim's
> >> teams. Tim is a defense first coach where the teams of the
> late
> >> 80's and early 90's tended to focus on offense more and let
> their
> >> all American goalies do their thing. We had King, Delguidice,
> >> Dunham, Snow, et al. back then.
> >>
> >> I may be completely wrong but someone who has them can go back
> >> and compare team stats on Goals for / GA and shots taken /
> shots
> >> allowed and see. I admit I'm not a big fan of Tim and can't
> say
> >> why. He does get the job done in the NCAA's but the record in
> >> the reg season isn't great. That doesn't mean that I
> >> think they'd be better off with another coach.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam
> Parker
> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:56 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >>
> >> Here comes the voice of reason (I'm sure Mosey is the only
> >> one who laughed right there):
> >>
> >> As much of many of us would like to pretend that we can
> >> "leave Walsh out of it" - it's impossible to do, and
> here'd
> >> why. Had Tim Whitehead taken over Merrimack, Alabama
> >> Huntsville, Dartmouth, or another school that is not a
> >> perrenial power like Maine is, then advancing to the
> Frozen
> >> Four 4 out of 6 years would be an amazing accomplishment.
> It
> >> would probably get the coach a long, wealthy extension.
> The
> >> coach would get many job offers from "better" schools, and
> >> who knows where they would go from there.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately for Tim, he did not enter into that
> situation.
> >> He followed one of the greatest coaches in history (IMHO -
> to
> >> make sure Bob knows I'm hip). He also followed a team
> >> relatively fresh off an NCAA Championship. First, Tim
> took
> >> Shawn's players to the title game, and the knock was that
> he
> >> didn't do it with his own guys. Now he's coaching his own
> >> guys, and he's gone to 3 of the last 4 frozen fours.
> >>
> >> Some would say that it's Tim's fault for not putting
> together
> >> or coaching a team that would get over the hump and win
> the
> >> championship. But, let's compare him to his peers. Has
> any
> >> other coach had the success that Tim has had as far as
> >> advancing in the tournament? No - but Mosey is right.
> >> Advancing to the Frozen Four will only mean so much after
> a
> >> while, which is why Tim has to win it. Unfortunately for
> >> Tim, every step he takes, he's going to be compared to
> >> someone. First (as I said) it was "Can he win with his
> own
> >> guys?" Now it's "Can he win the big one?" Eventually it
> >> will become "Can he sustain the success?" and so on.
> >>
> >> When all is said and done - we are a national powerhouse.
> >> Slumps like we had at the end of the season are
> >> unacceptable. Advancing to the Frozen four this
> frequently
> >> without winning a championship has become unacceptable to
> >> some. However, he's still at the top of his game, and
> having
> >> success that nobody else in the country is having (on a
> >> national level). Also - one final note - he wasn't on the
> >> ice when Maine failed to score on a 6-3 against Denver for
> a
> >> minute to tie the game. There are some situations that he
> >> just can't control, as much as we'd like him to.
> >>
> >> Now - how about this for the next discussion topic: IF
> YOU
> >> CAN'T GO TO COLLEGE, GO TO STATE!
> >>
> >> 1-2-3...M-A-I-N-E....GOOOOO BLUE!
> >>
> >> --Adam (THE University of Maine - '03)
> >>
> >>
>
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> >> From: The Maine Hockey Discussion List
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anthony
> DelMonaco
> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:03 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >>
> >> Well I'd like to see any of our posts on here back in 92?
> >> Then again I live in Maine and we just got running water
> and
> >> indoor plumbing last week. I'm not on any meds so I guess
> >> you'll have to find something else to pick at. Pardon me
> I'm
> >> 26, I don't remember much of what went on in 88 other than
> >> playing in a damn sandbox. From now on I'll leave Walsh
> out
> >> of it. Lets start with Dungy, he had a team with great
> >> players on it that played well, hello Mr Manning,
> >> Vinaimnotgonnasayhisnamebecauseigetheated, Addai, a
> defense
> >> that Maine hockey would kill for, Harrison, the list goes
> on,
> >> these players are all great players who DIDN'T under
> achieve.
> >> My point is that this team has players who SHOULD be doing
> >> better than they are. I see a defenseman turning into (and
> I
> >> don't go on USCHO much anymore but I remember this
> nickname)
> >> the Jeff "the Human Pylon" Mushaluk. Other players that
> have
> >> the talent to be among the top scorers in the nation. A
> >> rookie who has the best handwork since Gimmetacos, sorry
> >> Dimitrakos. Teddy has the ability and skill to be a great
> >> hockey player, hell he already is, but at the rate he'll
> end
> >> up being undrafted playing for the Bruins or something
> awful
> >> like that. I know a lot of you people don't live in Maine,
> >> fortunately(or maybe it's unfortunately) I do, I'm a proud
> >> season ticket holder(no I was still pooping yellow when
> this
> >> team started to get going. I don't remember back in those
> >> days because the only thing I was focused on was Tom and
> >> Jerry, Fruit Loops and the sandbox) but how many of you
> saw
> >> some of the games at the Alfond this year where they
> couldn't
> >> get the puck out of the zone CONSISTENTLY for the whole
> game,
> >> the sloppy passing, odd man rushes, hanging Bishop out to
> dry
> >> and the list can go on. It seemed like they are trying to
> get
> >> by on their name alone. Unless you're a Kennedy in
> >> Massachusetts you can't get by on your name. You have to
> >> actually show some signs of life that you want to win. It
> was
> >> hard to sit through some of those games because the game
> they
> >> were playing WASN'T what I can recall Maine Hockey being
> in
> >> my few years that I've been on this planet. It was
> pathetic,
> >> and I know I'm not the only one that feels this way,
> because
> >> a lot of the people leaving the Alfond after these games
> were
> >> saying the same way. Yeah yeah, 4 in 6 years. Pardon me,
> I
> >> need to find some meds, I want to hurl.
> >>
> >> Mosey(THE University of Maine '03)
> >>
> >> If you don't have the best of everything, make the best of
> >> everything you have
> >> -Shawn Walsh
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Bob Fitta <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:33:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >>
> >> Okay is this a serious post?????
> >>
> >> Anthony do you know how many Frozen Fours Shawn Walsh got
> too
> >> before they won in '93? 1988, Maine was #1 in the
> country,
> >> but lost in Lake Placid, 1989 team adversity made it to
> St.
> >> Paul before losing in the semis, and in 1991 Maine lost in
> >> the semis to Northern Michigan.
> >>
> >> By the way Maine also had the #1 team in '92, but lost in
> the
> >> quarters to Michigan State. Would have loved to see your
> >> posts back then, after all he couldn't even make it to the
> >> championship game!!!!!!! Should have fired him!
> >>
> >> And I'll take Tony Dungy, if memory serves he won the
> Super
> >> Bowl this year, which is why I wonder if this is all
> tongue
> >> in cheek! I give you credit though, at least your name is
> on
> >> this, unlike the anonymous fools on USCHO!
> >>
> >> Anthony, I think it's time for your meds, obviously
> something
> >> about Tim rubs you the wrong way, must be that easy going
> >> nature of his!
> >>
> >> Bob Fitta
> >> UMaine '83 (Maine's record that year 5-24, 1-20 ECAC!!!!)
> >> On Mar 26, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Anthony DelMonaco wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have another Tony Dungy on our hands. I'm beginning to
> >>> choke on all this 4 Frozen Fours in 6 years crap. WIN A
> >>> CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Those guys don't go out there and play a
> >>> whole season and say hey lets make it to the Frozen Four
> and
> >>> then lose, if any of you read the Bangor Daily today
> Bishop
> >>> said they're there to win it, hopefully he doesn't get
> let
> >>> down, along with the rest of us. So if Maine doesn't pull
> it
> >>> off in St. Louis we're gonna have hear about Tim's 4th
> >>> Frozen Four in 6 years and still no titles, more hyped up
> >>> players coming into the program that under achieve, but
> hey
> >>> that's ok, he's been to 4 Frozen Fours in 6 years. We're
> >>> turning into the Atlanta Braves, OR, and I hate to say it
> >>> because Nonni is gonna jump all over me, THE RED SOX!!!!
> >>> Give me a break.
> >>>
> >>> mosey come lately
> >>>
> >>> If you don't have the best of everything, make the best
> of
> >>> everything you have
> >>> -Shawn Walsh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Bob Fitta <[log in to unmask]
> >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:10:35 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Tim Whitehead
> >>>
> >>> Well it looks like we have found our next coach! Scott
> Lerman!
> >>>
> >>> Bruce thank you for what you stated so eloquently and I
> have
> >>> tried to do on this and other boards, but was not as
> thoughtful.
> >>>
> >>> Great article on Tim at College Hockey
> >>> News
> http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2007/03/24_maineman.php
> >>> that addresses people that feel the same way Scott does.
> >>>
> >>> I have often said we're in the silent majority, but we
> have
> >>> built up a very spoiled fan base of Johnny-come-lately
> >>> followers. When you consider this is Tim's 4th Frozen
> Four
> >>> in 6 YEARS and over that same course of time, BU has been
> to
> >>> 0, UNH to 2, Michigan has not been to one since Buffalo
> and
> >>> Minnesota has missed the last 2 you have to scratch your
> >>> head and wonder what the hell people are complaining
> about.
> >>>
> >>> No question it was a frustrating year, but where are they
> >>> now? And please don't give me the weak bracket crap,
> Maine
> >>> went where they were told to go and did what was
> required!
> >>>
> >>> Bob Fitta
> >>> UMAINE "83
> >>> On Mar 25, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Scott Lerman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/25/07, Bruce Hale <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> He has turned around a collapsing, demoralized team
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And why was the team collapsing? They weren't doing
> things
> >>>> that even I know to do, specifically hitting people,
> >>>> standing guys up at the blue line, and getting a forward
> in
> >>>> front of the net instead of putting all three of them
> >>>> behind the net.
> >>>>
> >>>> in the one of the most difficult tournaments there
> is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tournament, maybe, but Maine was in arguably the weakest
> >>>> regional. Michigan State had to beat BU and Notre Dame.
> BC
> >>>> had it almost as easy as Maine, thanks to Miami
> upsetting
> >>>> UNH. Whoever wins the Minnesota/North Dakota game
> obviously
> >>>> had to win that game. Beating St. Cloud (who only had 4
> >>>> wins against tournament teams, 2 each against Clarkson
> and
> >>>> Minnesota) and UMass (who's only wins against tournament
> >>>> teams were Maine, BC, and UNH, and went 3-2-2 against
> teams
> >>>> outside Hockey East, including a tie against Clarkson
> and a
> >>>> loss to Alabama) isn't an exceptionally spectacular
> feat.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Scott Lerman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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