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Timothy P Redman <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 31 May 2000 10:25:43 -0500
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I haven't seen Luca's post so my comment may be premature.  I don't
know of any direct evidence that Pound read Proudhon.  However, he
read Sivio Gesell very carefully, and Gesell acknowledges Proudhon's
work and obviously was very influenced by it.  I've documented
aspects of Pound's reading of Gesell in my _Ezra Pound and Italian
Fascism_ (Cambridge UP, 1991).


Tim Redman

On Mon, 29 May 2000 23:14:41 PDT En Lin Wei <[log in to unmask]>

> I want to thank Luca Gallesi for pointing out that Pound had read Proudhon.
>   The evidence appears quite strong.  It makes sense, at least in part,
> because Mussolini was originally a guild socialist, and an enthusiast of
> Sorel and his “Reflexions sur la violence.”   So to the extent that there
> was a sort of intellectual genology:  Mussolini--Sorel--French
> syndicalism--Proudhon, and to the extent that Pound was interested in
> Mussolini’s intellectual formation, it is not unreasonable to believe that
> Pound may have had more than a passing acquaintance with Proudhon.  Though
> what Pound thought of Proudhon would have to be deduced.
> So another question for Luca Gallesi:  Do you think Pound knew much about
> the Hegelio-Fascist philosopher Gentile.  I have not found any references to
> Gentile in the Cantos or in the prose writings.  Perhaps in the some of the
> Letters?  I believe Pound was far more interested in Odon Por and “fascist
> economics” than he was in Gentile’s dialectics for Italian fascists.  (He
> translated several of Por's articles on economics into English).
> Can anyone else speculate on this, or offer some clue?
> Luca Gallesi said,
> >
> >  I am quite sure that Pound read Proudhon during the Repubblica Sociale
> >Italiana.I remember having read something about Proudhon his letters to the
> >Minister of Popular Culture Mezzasoma and in his letters to Ubaldo degli
> >Uberti.
> >One of these letters is translated in Heyman's "The Last Rower" (page 336,
> >Citadel Press), where EP states: "We must remember that Mussolini and
> >Gesell
> >both preferred Proudhon to Marx"
> >  Again, we may infer Pound's reading of Proudhon in his obituary for Orage
> >(Selected prose, pag 410):  "Proudhon will be found somewhere in the
> >foundations of perhaps all contemporary economic thought that has life in
> >it".
> >
> >Luca Gallesi
> >via Lario 13
> >  20159 Milano Italia
> >
> [Note to L. Surette:  Thought I would forward this to you, in case you
> missed it.  It may help your presentation in Paris.]
> PS  Does anyone have any information on the Paris Conference that they could
> post here (or repost)?
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