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Pawel:
 
Check out Zukofsky's _A_, his magnum opus. You will find it most
satisfyingly dificult, given your preferences. [BTW, has anyone here ever
heard A-24 performed? It is quite remarkable. And the only TRULY fugal
writing that I have encountered in poetry (connecting this thread back to
the ongoing discussion of form in the _Cantos_...); perhaps only Zukofsky
would have the nerve--and the virtuosity--to attempt polyphonic _poetry_;
language is so different a medium, and is processed so differently by the
hearer....]
 
Dr. Conte's suggestions were excellent. [My $0.02 follow.] The _Man and
Poet_ series from the National Poetry Foundation (University of Maine) is
good to know about, and the Zukofsky book in that series is "a good place to
look first." An excellent introduction to Zukofsky.
 
Next, Hugh Kenner's _Pound Era_ and Guy Davenport's _The Geography of the
Imagination_--these are basic to any general introduction to 20th century
poets, etc. Davenport speaks at some length about Zukofsky through his book.
[And if you look into Davenport's fiction you will find it too is difficult
and rich.*]
 
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Since you like reading difficult poets, you will enjoy David Jones as well
(for example, the _Anathemata_). Basil Bunting is another poet you will
probably be interested in. Bunting's _Collected Poems_ are available in
paperback from Oxford University Press--a gem. There is also a book in the
_Man and Poet_ series on Bunting. Another poet you may wish to explore is
Charles Olson (for example,  _The Maximus Poems_).
 
Are you familiar with William Carlos William's _Paterson_?...It is not easy.
;-)  (There is also a book in the _Man and Poet_ series on Williams.)
 
James Joyce: _Ulysses_ and _Finnegan's Wake_. These are notorious for being
difficult--although Joyce was not an Objectivist; however, _Ulysses_ may not
meet your difficulty requirement: Pound said something to the effect that
"any blockhead" could follow it.
 
Also, you will find much of interest in the journals _Sagetrieb_ and
_Agenda_.
 
Chris Booth
 
p.s.: My apologies to the list if this seems too aside; I feel that this is
relevant enough to an interest in Pound to be acceptable posted generally;
Pound is not only Pound, but also his influence on others. He always wanted
to be the nucleus of that tempest in a teapot, and a discussion of Pound is
ALWAYS necessarily a discussion of other things as well. Polumetis and
catalytic was EP ever.
 
*Two poets that Davenport speaks of that are also difficult are Ronald
Johnson (for example, _Ark_) and Jonathan Williams (I have _An Ear in
Bartram's Tree_, and there are some treasures in there--perhaps not as
difficult as some of the others herementioned?).
 
{All of the books that I have mentioned here can be found at
http://www.amazon.com; the two journals of course, not.}
 
> ----------
> From:         Pawel Karwowski
> Reply To:     Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> Sent:         Wednesday, June 10, 1998 5:53 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Zukofsky & objectivists
>
>   Hello .
> Can  I  ask  somebody  to  recommend  me  basic  set  of  books  about
> Mr  Zukofsky  and  Objectivism  . / about  3  or  4  for  now / .
> I  study  creative  writing  in  Cracow  and  I  found  in  Carpenter's
> E. P .  biography  very  interesting  statement  that  objectivist  were
> not  willing  to  recognize  to  many  poets  / exept  Ezra  ,  Homer  ,
> Dante  and  few  others / .
> Thats  perfectly  how  I  feel  right  now . Mr  Zukofsky  verses  were
> described  as  " uncomprehensible "  -  and  that  I  greeted  with  joy ,
> because  I  like  poetry  which  is  difficult .
> Zukofsky  was  not  translated  into  my  language  yet .
>
>                                                       Pawel  Karwowski
>                                                       student  of  UJ
>
> P.S. I  buy  books  via  Internet  and  in  Amazon  bookstore / which
>      is  a  part  of  Netscape  browser /bookmarks/shopping / there  is
> 24      positions  a  little  bit  to  much  for  me .
>
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