Bob,

When I mention The Archetypal (as I have done in several contexts over the
past few months) you think in terms of socio-cultural paradigms. This is not
what I mean by the term. Also, an "assumed persona" --where ego scriptor
writes "in the voice" of some legendary person--  is not what I mean by the
archetypal, though it is possible that the person whose voice and role are
assumed represents an archetype.  What I have in mind when using the term is
the immutable cross-cultural erotic geometry that brings Persephone to
Hades, Narcissus to Echo, foam-born Venus up from the sea into which the
blood of her father's castrated genitals had fallen, et cetera. I'm talking
about the soul's double-helix, if you will.  It means we belong to the green
world. The green world does not belong to us.
Tim Romano




> tim,
>     i can see the various personnae ep assumed qua
> ego scriptor; but, can't see anything archetypal
> ...as for example whitman's american adam,
> or emerson's jeremiah.
> how do you mean ep's "archetypal self"?
> another american adam?
>
> bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 7:39 AM
> Subject: No place of grace
>
>
> > Bob,
> > With his discovery of the archetypal nature of the Self
> > Pound progressed from Solipsism into Nature and Creation
> > to rediscover 'the green world' thereby completing the circle.
> > This universal place of grace he saw threatened
> >    by the relentless mechanization of human labor
> >    by the rapacious exploitation of natural resource
> >    by the endless barrage of soul-less advertisements
> >           and other projections whose goal was destruction
> >             of the inner-sanctum
> >              that we may become insatiable hedonistic consumers
> >                  who show up for work on time
> >                  and pay every tax
> >                  and cheerfully submit our selves to the machine.
> >
> > Fascism was salvific for Pound for the paradoxical reasons you imply.
The
> > directed will seemed indeed a manful remedy for the smothering machine.
> > Fascism projected an image of the nobility of the artisan versus the
> > dehumanized slave-labor-units of soviet socialism.  It seemed to hold
the
> > promise of no more red-tape ... a government that would govern least,
> > organized around the collective will of the skilled trades. Imagine how
> > powerful its attraction for a liberty-techne'  freak like Pound.
> >
> > Tim Romano
>
>