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"In other words, I am getting to age where at bloody last I occasionally
wonder whether I don't talk too much....or at any rate to stop and ask
myself: is it useful to say this or that...at a particular time."
Pound, Ezra, Rapolla, 14 March, 1940
Perhaps, you should heed Pound's advice to himself?
 
``bob scheetz wrote:
>
> sshulman,
>
> mightn't arendt's eichman bk -
> everywhere the primary judas was the ghetto elders,
> dampen a little yer zeal fer calling the roll of guilt?
>
> in general,  the trouble with holocaust industry stuff is:
> (1) it's very profitable;
> (2)it's tendentious,
> serves the needs of predatory power, the us & israel;
> and (3) much as the matter calls for it,
> objective inquiry is precluded
> under threat of the adl thought-police'
> dread blackball, "anti-semite";
> so that almost none of it has the least seriousness
> for humanistical purposes, no?
>
> in the mythology of the west
> judaism, obviously, bears a paternal relationship to xian civ;
> and, as with every parent-child,
> a mad compound of love & hate.
> better than summary condemnation,
> were researching  the ground of his hate
> in say the sang froid of the international bankers.
>
> bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sshulman <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism
>
> >Having litle desire to delve into Poundian politics, I should like to
> >comment on the myth of, 'The Myth of Rescue: Why the Democracies Could
> >Not Have Saved More Jews From The Nazis'.
> >Are you aware that Canada's motto toward Jews during WWII, was, "none is
> >too many", that FDR's advisors found certain dollar sums per Jew, too
> >high a ransom, that it was British troops, who refused ships carrying
> >European Jews, entry to Palestine?
> >Shall we continue, 'democracy' by 'democracy'?
> >
> >Leon Surette wrote:
> >>
> >>         I have refrained from participating in the thread on Pound and
> >> anti-Semitism which has bee ngoing on for some weeks or months now
> because
> >> it did not seem to me that people were interested in informing themselves
> on
> >> the topic so much as they were concerned to vent their own settled views
> on
> >> the matter.
> >>         But let me recommend two very well informed and measured
> discussions
> >> of the matter: Albert S. Lindemann,_ Esau's Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism
> and
> >> the Rise of the Jews_, Cambridge: Cambridge UP 1997; and William D.
> >> Rubinstein, _The Myth of Rescue: Why the Democracies could not have Saved
> >> mor Jews from the Nazis_, New York: Routledg 1997. These two books
> provide
> >> an excellent survey of recent literature on anti_Semitism and the
> Holocaust
> >> as well as offering their own analysis of the issue.
> >>
> >>         As for Pound, I have forthcoming from Illinois UP _Pound in
> >> Purgatory: From economic Radicalism to Anti-Semitism_. In that book I
> >> carefully examine Pound unpublished letters and ephemeral journalism with
> a
> >> view to gaining a better understanding of his economic opinions.
> Incidental
> >> to that research I found a very clear shift on Pound's part from the
> casual
> >> anti-Semitism of his class to the full-blown racism and conspiracy theory
> >> evinced in the Rome broadcasts and the Agresti correspondence editeddby
> >> Demetres Tryphonopoulos and me. There is little doubt that Pound's
> >> preoccupation with economics and politics after 1933 was motivated by his
> >> outrage at the Great Depression. But that outrage did not express itself
> as
> >> anti-Semitism until he read an anti-Semitic article by William Pelley.
> >> Ironically, the journal in which it appeard was sent to Pound by Louis
> >> Zukofsky--as an example of the ludicrous exaggerations of extreme
> right-wing
> >> American opinion. Unfortunately Pound was sufficiently impressed by
> Pelley's
> >> article that he set William Drummond to research the "Jewish problem,"
> and
> >> also sought out allies of Pelley--most importantly the German-American
> >> Gesellite and anti-Semite, Hugo Fack.
> >>
> >> Leon Surette

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