I apologize for any repeated postings.  I posted this originally 8 hours ago
and have not seen it come back.

Rick Seddon
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From: "Richard Seddon" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Pound/Duncan


> Burt
>
> Thanks very much.  I have a request off for information from Ekbert Faas
and
> will also try from Foster, if I can find an email for him.  As information
> develops I will share back to you.
>
> It begins to sound as if Duncan used and developed an idea that he got
> undeveloped from Pound.  After I find out just how Duncan used the idea it
> will be interesting to see if Pound ever used it in a similar fashion.
>
> Pound writes concerning "tone leading" in the "Pitch" section of "I Gather
> the Limbs of Osiris" but he writes of it in its musical context and does
not
> refer at all to vowels.  "Tone leading of vowels" may be part of how Pound
> thought rhythm could be established in verse.  It is curious how an idea
may
> have remained seminal but unwritten with Pound for 30 years or so.  It
would
> seem to have had a rather major impact upon Duncan.
>
> Foster on page 142 of "Understanding the Black Mountain Poets" lists
several
> poems by Duncan that incorporate "tone leading by vowels"
>
> Rick Seddon
> McIntosh, NM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Burt Hatlen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Pound/Duncan
>
>
> > - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> > >Duncan's biographer Ekbert Faas and Edward Foster in "Understanding the
> Black Mountain Poets" both refer (Faas, 282 and Foster,142) to Duncan
having
> used Pound's "tone leading of vowels".  Foster refers back to "Literary
> Essays of Ezra Pound" page
> > >5.
> > >
> > >Can someone point out to me where Pound describes "tone leading of
> vowels"?  Both Faas and Foster use precisely this phrase as if it were a
> phrase of Pound's.    Pound seems to be more concerned with leading of
> consonants and the effect of final
> > >vowels.
> >
> > Somewhere around 1946, Duncan sent Pound a letter asking, "What is the
> secret?" Pound sent back a postcard that read, "Follow the tone leading of
> the vowels." I received this story from Duncan himself. It may also be in
> writing somewhere, but I
> > don't know where. Any further information would be appreciated.
> >
> > Burt Hatlen
> >
>