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Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]>
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Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:59:14 -0500
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The hairsplitting you two guys have been engaged in is sometimes
quite interesting, other times--especially when you're adhominem--
irritating.
 
What is clearly established so far is that the dangerous type
of antisemite, throughout history, is the one who publicly voices
his Jew-hatred (whether on economic, racial, or political grounds
doesn't matter: bullets that follow words don't make fine
distinctions in the type of hole they make in your head).  Someone
pointed out earlier that Nixon, despite the private antisemitism
voiced in his taped office conversations (never intended to be
public statements, and therefore non-toxic) acted as President in
a way quite favorable to Israel in his pursuit of U.S. policy
interests.
 
What really matters in Pound's case is his public antisemitic
utterances.  He may have in one place said he doesn't want
pogroms, but such a caution is negated by any and all other
anti-Jewish statements that would necessarily be inflammatory
seen in isolation.  And it is the immediate effect of these
isolated utterances that is morally outrageous, whether or not
they helped lead people to death camps and whether or not he
hated banker-Jews as opposed to poor Jews (the bullets he
might unwittingly unleash may not make such fine distinctions).
 
So I think there is something absurd in what you two guys are
going on about.  There is, to a Jew, no distinction in DEGREE
of antisemitism.  Once voiced in a Jew's presence, an antisemitic
remark is prelude to a bullet.
 
==Dan Pearlman
 
 
At 07:55 AM 11/29/99 -0500, you wrote:
>This list is capable of supporting multiple concurrent discussions; other
lists I frequent often have four or five topics going on at once. Anyone is
free to join in at ANY time, or to start a new topic.  In fact, the "main"
discussion had indeed moved on to issues related to recordings of the
poetry, when you dropped back in with the Zion post, one of your
"spare-time minor fascinations".
>
>I would have let this thread die a while back, had it not been for your
allegation that Pound knew about the genocide and for the implication that
he was complicit in it. An allegation that the man was an unmitigated
monster needs to be backed up with more than innuendo. You even allowed a
_fictitious_ character, Jason Compson, to speak as if for Pound!
>
>And when I held you to the requirement to provide evidence of Pound's
knowledge and complicity --even though he had said several times "Don't
start a pogrom"-- you wrote:
>
>> "Pound has said 'Don't start a pogrom,' but he certainly does entertain
some strange thoughts about
>> ten-year-old boys, doesn't he?"
>
>There were some slugs among those dimes.
>
>In my last post, I had drawn together a number of themes in the
broadcasts, which strongly suggest that Pound's views on race were not
simply "suburban prejudices" and not mere idiosyncratic pathological
ranting, but a reflection of the intellectual climate of the early part of
this century, specifically with respect to the eugenics movement here in
America and in Europe.
>
>Tim Romano
>Swarthmore Pennsylvania
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jonathan Morse <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 2:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Getting things all mixed up
>
>
>> At 01:23 PM 11/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >You're almost as elliptical as Pound.
>>
>> I'm also out of dimes. But please trust me about this: two-person
>> discussions are one of the things that kill lists off. Even at their best,
>> they give the impression that the list is a coterie. Let's let other people
>> speak now, shall we?
>>
>> Jonathan Morse
>>
>>
>
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