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I would like to thank Chris booth for his kind words and also mention
another poet much influenced by the Cantos---The Nicaraguan, Ernesto
Cardenal. I was also gratified to see Chris mention David Jones, a poet
much favored by Eliot and myself and whose subject matter echoes Pound's
juuxtaposition of the ancient, medieval and modern. Carlo Parcelli
Booth, Christopher wrote:
> 
> Carroll Terrell's Cantos are very good too. They deserve more attention. One
> might at first dismiss them as a pedant's defense of his master's voice, but
> they are not. They stand as good writing on their own, having adopted a form
> as appropriate for the long poem in the 20th Century.
> 
> Our own Carlo Parcelli has written some of what I think to be among the best
> stuff I've read; it deserves a stronger statement than just that he has
> written poetry influenced by Pound--we ALL here have. I doubt that there is
> a significant percentage on this list who haven't turned a verse or hundred.
> Carlo's work is (I think) shockingly good. IMHO, he is by no means the least
> poet mentioned in this thread.
> 
> Ronald Johnson.
> 
> David Jones. [Initially I put T. S. Eliot, then removed him; I think that
> Eliot and David Jones are more _sui generis_ than the others, but the
> influence of EP on T.S. as a barometer at least seems pretty clear to me,
> and I wonder if David Jones would have felt so confident in what he was
> doing without the _Cantos'_ paradigm available?]
> 
> One need only look in any one or a few issues of _Agenda_ to see
> EP's/_Cantos'_ influence in numerous people who are published in poetry
> magazines.
> 
> I remember once hearing Gu Cheng, one of the Chinese "Misty School" poets,
> say that he had read the _Cantos_ and that they had influenced him--though
> as far as I know, Gu Cheng didn't produce a long poem of the sort in
> question. I believe that one of the other Misty poets said the same, but I
> don't recall who it was. [By the way, Gu Cheng's _Selected Poems_ are
> available in paperback in an extraordinarily good English translation from
> Renditions Paperbacks. Chinese poetry has seldom been translated into
> English poetry (except by we-know-who), and Gu Cheng has been lucky in this:
> his work has been translated so well in this book that it is still good
> poetry in English. Perhaps a visionary poet such as Gu translates more
> easily, but if that were so other Chinese poets wouldn't read like
> orientalist postcards when translated into English. But this is a different
> topic.]
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         sylvester pollet
> > Reply To:     Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine
> > Sent:         Monday, January 17, 2000 3:11 PM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: Thanks and query
> >
> >         I'd like to add David Gordon to that list. His work isn't
> > completed, a projected 10 volume poem, but "Outward," "Repairs," and
> > "Rest"
> > are available from NPF. Parts of "Stem" have appeared in various journals,
> > including my Backwoods Broadsides Chaplet Series (Number 8). I'll send a
> > free sample to anyone who asks--send address backchannel. Sylvester
> >
> > At 2:23 PM -0500 1/17/00, Burt Hatlen wrote:
> > >[log in to unmask],.Internet writes:
> > >>Has anyone other than Pound written a good poem in a manner shaped by
> > >>the
> > >>Cantos?
> > >
> > >
> > >>Richard Edwards
> > >>_____________
> > >
> > >William Carlos Williams, H.D., Charles Olson, Louis Zukofsky, Basil
> > >Bunting, Robert Duncan.  Perhaps that will do for starters. Tho others
> > >come to mind: Tom McGrath. The recently-deceased Paul Metcalf, who
> > >carried the collage method into a new space. Ken Irby.  Some
> > >not-so-good poets too: whatever became of Archibald MacLeish?
> > >
> > >Burt Hatlen
> >
 
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