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bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
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Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:31:01 -0500
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    hitler's programmatic life experiences were
the extended stint in vienna and munich at the very
bottom of the urban economic food chain,
whence he matriculated
profoundly and passionately consciencisized;
and, ww1, whence he emerged, iron cross first class.
these  conditions, super-exploitation and total war,
ineffably degrading and dehumanizing,
were representative for the urban industrial masses
of the time.  he and a significant but disparate
world-brotherhood rose in righteous hatred to
challenge the system with such an essence.
overwhelmingly, of course, as in ireland, they failed pathetically
...and where they succeeded,
it was only temporary,
and even at such a toll of brotherhood as lost its soul...
anyway, by comparison, winnie and frank
appear narcissist inanities.
and the pt for our purposes is that the
categorial label, "dementia," applied in the cases
of hitler, stalin, mussolini,... and our ep,
is not just co-incidentally co-extensive with
the category "popular revolutionary."
(the same style is, of course, applied today to "terrorists," no?)
and if you want to uderstand ep's fascism and anti-semitism,
you have first to become critical of the
class-perspective, bourgeois,
of this accepted-truth version.
wouldn't you agree?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Anania <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Bourgeois Fascism
>In a message dated 1/28/0 4:05:59 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
><< Hitler is always the failed art student,
>Stalin, the failed seminarian,
>Mussolini... the bombastic charlatan,
>(and, o'course our ep would also fit here);
>all, of course, certified psychopaths
>...and their putative sociopathology >>
>Hitler WAS a failed art student.  So what's your point? He was so much
>'Putative'???  Again, your point?
>"our ep" ??? I have a strong feeling that your ep is nothing at all like my