Tim,
     Is the complaint in Mauberley against war?  or,  this war?  waged by
this "tawdry," "old bitch"(Victorian-Edwardian) regnum?  there's a genuine
pathos/reverence for the myriad "daring", fortitude", "frankness as never
before", who went out, died, or returned, "disillusioned as never before",
no?
     And in contrast to vapid victorian whiggery, in the Cantos, is there
any other character, tableau, theme,... can match the presence of the image
of the warlord Sigismundo, the great-souled warrior hero, and Rimini?  and
don't we see here pound's ideal polis/regnum?  and in Il Duce, the return?
Isn't it the old wagnerian/nietzschean intoxication?


bob



----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound


> An interesting post, bob.  Could you describe what you mean by 'the
> military ethos' and say why you think Pound found it irresistible?   Are
> there places in his work where Pound reveals himself to be drawn to the
> military ethos? How would you assimilate into this view poems from the WWI
> period, such as Hugh Selwyn Mauberley iv. "These fought in any case..."
and
> v. "There died a myriad..."? Did Pound's anti-war attitudes undergo a
> sea-change in the 1920s and '30s?
> Tim Romano
>
> At 10:59 PM 1/12/03 -0500, bob scheetz wrote:
> >  And presumably, since the latter's [populism's] reactionism harked back
> > principally to military ethos, Pound was irresistably drawn.