"the old wagnerian/nietzchean intoxication"? whoa! obviously sober judge
hypocrite hunter Yotabob, head in a vacuum which way in a vacuum, has
listened not too much to former nor read much of latter, no? Hoi Barbaroi
have not yet destroyed these works thought one must find their Elysium in
the Halls of Hades or on the back shelf at Borders, no?
-Moyer
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>From: bob scheetz <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2003, 11:04 PM
>
> Tim,
> Is the complaint in Mauberley against war? or, this war? waged by
> this "tawdry," "old bitch"(Victorian-Edwardian) regnum? there's a genuine
> pathos/reverence for the myriad "daring", fortitude", "frankness as never
> before", who went out, died, or returned, "disillusioned as never before",
> no?
> And in contrast to vapid victorian whiggery, in the Cantos, is there
> any other character, tableau, theme,... can match the presence of the image
> of the warlord Sigismundo, the great-souled warrior hero, and Rimini? and
> don't we see here pound's ideal polis/regnum? and in Il Duce, the return?
> Isn't it the old wagnerian/nietzschean intoxication?
>
>
> bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Romano <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Emerson- Pound
>
>
>> An interesting post, bob. Could you describe what you mean by 'the
>> military ethos' and say why you think Pound found it irresistible? Are
>> there places in his work where Pound reveals himself to be drawn to the
>> military ethos? How would you assimilate into this view poems from the WWI
>> period, such as Hugh Selwyn Mauberley iv. "These fought in any case..."
> and
>> v. "There died a myriad..."? Did Pound's anti-war attitudes undergo a
>> sea-change in the 1920s and '30s?
>> Tim Romano
>>
>> At 10:59 PM 1/12/03 -0500, bob scheetz wrote:
>> > And presumably, since the latter's [populism's] reactionism harked back
>> > principally to military ethos, Pound was irresistably drawn.
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