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Hello too,
    Actually my reference gives Khety (Egyptian is a sort of pick your own
vowel affair). Khety was the nomen of several kings of the Ninth/Tenth
Dynasty [circa 2200 BC] and Merikare or Meri-ka-ra was the son of an unnamed
Khety perhaps (Axthoes). Merikara's name was furtunately preserved in the
papyrus. However his sister, Mary-go-round proved to be quite an
embarrassment to the Dynasty and was stricken from all the  records of the
land.
    My translation goes-

    "Good nature is a man's heaven,
    The cursing of the [furious] is painful.
    If you are skilled in speech, you will win,
    The tongue is stronger than all fighting,"

    And 4,000 years later when man has had time to refine his choice of
leaders-
    "Bring 'em on."

Charlie
p.s. It would be interesting to see the actual hieroglyphs from the papyri.
Three are three fragmentary papyri which are only partly complementary.

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>From: Richard Seddon <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: <no subject>
>Date: Tue, Aug 26, 2003, 4:51 PM
>

> Hello:
>
> The whole saying of Khati (Merijere) is perhaps germane to this thread.
>
> The complete saying as translated by Gardiner (Journal of Egyptian
> Archaeology, I page 20) is,
>
> "A good disposition is a man's heaven, but the cursing of a passionate man
> is baneful"
>
> Rick Seddon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: <no subject>
>
>
>> In a message dated 08/26/2003 1:06:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>
>> > "'A man's paradise is his good nature'
>> >                                      sd/ Kati."
>> >                                        -EP
>> >
>> >
>>
>> or the other way around....
>>
>> jb...
>>
>>
>>
>> They hang the man and flog the woman
>> That steal the goose from off the common,
>> But let the greater villain loose
>> That steals the common from the goose.
>>
>> Constant apprehension of war has the same tendency
>> to render the head too large for the body.  A standing military
>> force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe.
>> companions to liberty.  -- Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>
>> "America is a quarter of a billion people totally misinformed and
> disinformed
>> by their government. This is tragic but our media is -- I wouldn't even
> say
>> corrupt -- it's just beyond telling us anything that the government
> doesn't
>> want us to know."
>>
>> Gore Vidal
>>

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